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every time i go to the dr she can see the fluid in both ears really bad in the right one
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I have this myself and have been to 3 ENTs with no cause found. I did have an abnormal Brain Stem response in both ears. This means that information going to my brain through my ears is abnormal.
Below is a possible cause.
'The sore throat that is not a sore throat' - What is Carotidynia? Frequently our patients describe sore throats as part of their recurring symptom complex. Often, when specifically asked, the patients note that ear pain accompanies the throat pain, but the patients often state that their primary physician can find no reason for their discomfort. In fact, on examination, there is no sign of inflammation of the throat or ear.
The condition 'carotidynia' is little known but is, in fact, common. On careful examination, one can easily detect swelling and pain at the carotid bulb, which is located just lateral to the top of the thyroid cartilage (Adam's Apple) and is the location at which the internal and external carotid arteries separate, or bifurcate.
Our theory is that this is yet another sign of inflammatory neurological disease associated with LBC, since the carotid bulb is known to be a baroreceptor, which means it plays a prominent role in monitoring blood pressure. As such, it is loaded with nerve fibers, some of which mediate pain. Since the fibers at the bulb lie in proximity to the throat and may radiate to the ear area, our patients complain of 'sore throat and earache', when in fact the throat and ear pain arise from an inflamed carotid bulb. The mediation of this pain is most likely from the Nerve of Hering, a branch of the 9th cranial nerve (glossopharyngeal nerve), and/or a branch of the superior cervical sympathetic chain.
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lymemomtooo
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I always have fluid in both ears. And when the occasional ear ache happens, I can usually move my head or get a q tip and things start dripping again. No more pain.
I constantly have to dab it out with a q tip or it will sometimes spill out. One LLmd once said people have dry ears not wet ones..
I also have had sore throats often throughout life..Will mention the nerve thing to the Dr next time I go..lmt
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Geneal
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Fluid should not leak out of your middle ear.
It is a "closed" system.
If you have fluid in your middle ear and not the outer ear,
And it is "leaking" out you may have perforated your ear drum
Or have a small hole in it.
Not good.
While ear drums can repair themselves, scar tissue is usually left behind.
Over time the scar tissue builds and results in a hearing loss.
Or if there is a hole then that leaves this system
Which is very close to your brain, open for bacteria and/or debris
It is possible for major infection.
Have your doc check your adenoids/tonsils. (Indirect naryngoscopy).
The eustachian tube usually is the drainage for the middle ear.
If it is occluded by swelling in the throad/nasopharyngeal area,
Then proper drainage cannot occur.
If ear drums are intact, yet frequent infections continue,
Pressure Equalization Tubes (PE Tubes) can be placed in the ear drum.
This allows extra fluid to drain out without perforating the ear drum.
The middle ear can be a breeding ground for infection.
Meningitis and other serious issues can arise from this.
Maybe see an ENT. Whatever the cause (Lyme or not)
This is not a condition to be ignored.
While antibiotics may cover you from serious infection,
It will not prevent permanent hearing loss.
Hugs,
Geneal
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5dana8
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i have had this on & off....it was finally discovered to be coming from my sinus's. Didn't even know i had sinus problems till an MRI showed this. Hope this helps & you can feel better soon
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Keebler
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Phlegm producing foods (wheat/gluten, corn, dairy and for some, soy) can increase fluid in ears. Exposure to mold or some chemicals can cause this, too. And, of course, the star of the season: POLLEN.
Now, it can be more of a fullness than actual fluid. For a true fluid, that could mean an active infection or other problem. Geneal's advice above is good.
However, if you see an ENT, avoid steroids unless your hearing is in jeopardy and then, see Burrascano's guidelines for how to safely to that.
Liver or lymph stagnation/congestion can create the sensation of fluid, too. Liver support and lymph massage or gentle stretching can help. A good D.O. can do some special manipulation of the eustachian tubes, too.
[It took me a long time to understand how an overwhelmed liver could affect my ears. Think of it as a pipe that has pressure building up but it can't clear out as fast as usual. That pressure can build up, all the way to the ears. I wish I could explain that better but my N.D. - and much personal observation - helped me understand.)
Anti-inflammatory supplements like allicin, ginger, turmeric or andrographis help to clear my ears.
Within minutes of taking a Hepapro allicin ( www.hepapro.com ) or a Planetary Formula's andrographis ( www.vitacost.com ) I get relief.
Since I'm on andrographis all the time now, I never have that problem (but I also avoid foods from that list above. Even yogurt will gum up my ears, regardless of supplements).
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Also, some meds may contribute to this but, usually the problem with that would be not so much fluid as vertigo, tinnitus or hearing difficulty and those would involve minocycline, azithromycin or biaxin.
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