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emla999/Lyme
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Here's a recent news article about Lyme Disease in North Carolina.


N.C. in denial on Lyme disease?

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/health_science/story/1501264.html


Quote from the link above:

"A study last summer by military scientists concluded that "Lyme disease is a risk to Marine Corps personnel at Camp Lejeune" after they found Lyme-causing bacteria in a third of the black-legged ticks they collected at the Onslow County base."


A full 1/3 of all black-legged ticks at Camp Legeune, NC were found to carry borrelia burgdorferi!!!!


So, I would have to think the odds of contracting Lyme Disease there would have to be fairly high.

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That's a lot!! My LLMD said that in Missouri it's about 10% of the ticks have Bb. I think Texas is the same.

He also said it's like 85% in the North East. ( I guess like CT, NY, PA, etc )

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Yes, Marines are at risk. They train at Quantico, VA, an endimic state.

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Just take the military report and send it to your doctors and public representatives. Tell them "Hey, our state says this and this -- but this military study says "wrong." So, what are you going to do?

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Hi

I think Wisconsin is right up there with the east coast states. But it has come down to money.No state wante to admitt You stand a chance of getting lyme in their state.

It would make a great billboard,"come to Our state and get lyme ,GOOD luck on getting treated thou". Everything ,I mean EVERYTHING revolves around money.

I know of a state that forced a billboard taken down ,because it warned people about lyme diease. The only reason was because of tourist trade. They did not want to scare people.

There is nothing more important than the almighty dollar.

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I just moved to NorthEast Tennessee. My vet said they don't have Lyme here and my doctor said he has never seen Lyme.

I got my haircut and the person cutting my hair said they caught Lyme here. She had the rash and fever and her doctor caught it.

I looked at the CDC map and it has either low or no Lyme here. This whole area is very wooded and full of deer and other animals.

I don't think that this area is that low in Lyme. I think it must be undiagnosed or they get treated other places and dosn't get reported here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
That's a lot!! My LLMD said that in Missouri it's about 10% of the ticks have Bb. I think Texas is the same.

I happen to be unlucky enough to get bit one of the 10% in Texas. I had the rash but it went away and I didn't connect the rash with my medical problems.

It's odd that every vet knows about Lyme Disease around East Texas and talks to you about it. I was at the vet after I got bit and he talked about Lyme for my dogs.

I never even thought about me having Lyme Disease. He didn't mention the rash because you can't really see it on dogs and I never saw the tick.

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Same sad story over and over again.

I can't imagine why any human being would close their eyes to the nightmare of Lyme.

Even if the small number of cases reported was accurate (which of course it isn't even close) it would still be one case too many.

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I know so many people just in my little Central NC town who have Lyme- I got reinfected there, my roommate got infected there, we know another lady who had a horrible time getting it into remission, and there's a couple with Lyme and RMSF, one of whom died this fall of the RMSF. And that's in a town of 6000, of whom I know less than 60 people.

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1/3?? That's NOTHING. 50-70+% of deer ticks way up here in NH, from the seacoast right into the inner Merrimack valley (including the capital of Concord) have B.B. in them, according to a survey 2 years ago.

And Concord had one of the drags showing a 70%+ infection rate! No wonder NASA agreed to a $750,000 grant to study the Granite State from the air (& on the ground). They were curious why WE had the fastest Increase in tick infection rate of ANY state in the Union a couple years back.
[The study is still under way.]

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here's some statistics for you all to prove things! [Smile]

STATISTICS ...LYME! --- IMPORTANT!! Below!!

1980 - Jan. 2008 ...all 50 states broken down by years!

http://www.lyme.org/resources/1980-cumulative.htm



Betty note: I tried printing out the chart, but it goes SIDEWAYS, and tried printing in pages 1, 2, 3; it kept printing page 1 only! So just a warning if others try to do this; use your PRINT REVIEW FIRST which I did, and indicated DIFFERENT pages, but still got page 1 only! I gave up after 8 tries! uffda [Smile]


1990--2006 of Lyme cases on the LDA website. LDA wants to make it difficult for anyone to continue to deny the impact of this disease nationwide.

I just noticed this on the LDA site, a new handy dandy tool for folks to use... (of course that is when I get done playing with it).

It is a printable map that shows the total number of reported cases of Lyme per year in each state... and the total number of cases over-all for each state. Thought it might be of help to those doing research, reports, support group meetings, etc.


2005, top 20 states in CDC STATS; fyi, IOWA no. 15%
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=049305#000004

LYMEDAD sorted the numbers for 2005 plus 2006 (through 12/23/06.
1. New York 9754
2. Pennsylvania 7642
3. New Jersey 5281
4. Connecticut 3497
5. Wisconsin 2786
6. Massachusetts 2369
7. Maryland 2177
8. Minnesota 1646
9. Delaware 1111
10. New Hampshire 823
11. Virginia 589
12. Maine 534
13. Rhode Island 274
14. California 264
15. Iowa 176
16. Vermont 157
17. Illinois 127
18. Michigan 116
19. Florida 106
20. Ohio 100
21. Texas 88
22. North Carolina 79
23. West Virginia 75
24. DC 69
25. Indiana 54
26. South Carolina 33
27. Missouri 27
28. Tennessee 20
29. Alabama 19
30. Oregon 18
31. Arizona 17
32. Washington 16
33. Nebraska 13
34. Georgia 13
35. Kentucky 12
36. Idaho 9
37. Utah 8
38. Kansas 8
39. Alaska 7
40. Nevada 6
41. New Mexico 5
42. Wyoming 4
43. South Dakota 3
44. Louisiana 3
45. North Dakota 3
46. Colorado 1
47. Mississippi 1
48. Arkansas 0
49. Guam 0
50. Hawaii 0
51. Oklahoma 0
52. Puerto Rico 0

LDA Map of Lyme Disease Case Numbers
http://lymediseaseassociation.org/Maps/usa_total.gif

The small print at the bottom says:
"Note CDC says Lyme disease is under reported and that only about 10% of cases that meet CDC surveillance criteria are actually reported to CDC. (For example, Oklahoma 362 reported cases = 3,620 probable cases meeting CDC criteria.)"

HOW TO INSTRUCTIONS for showing a physician
YOUR state's LD statistics by Nancy, HSHBMOM
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=063621


2003 CDC Incidence map from Truthfinder/Tracy
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/distribution_density.htm
or this ``RISK MAP'':
http://www.aldf.com/usmap.shtml


Now compare that to this map that shows the incidence of positive Lyme test results in dogs in the USA:
http://www.idexx.com/animalhealth/testkits/3dx/lymemap.htm


1996 ``CDC `` Case Definition of Lyme Disease, (Borrelia burgdorferi)
CDC's definition of an ``endemic'' county is a county with 2 confirmed cases of Lyme disease. TWO! Report yours!

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NOTE: from bettyg, i talked with a higher up manager from Iowa Natl. Guards at a special ceremony where my WW2 friend received 9 awards/ribbons never given to him in 65 years.


http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.med.diseases.lyme/2006-02/msg00556.html

Lyme Disease Risk Assessments
Done by U.S. Army, 1983-1996


Lyme Disease Risk Assessments (LDRAs) have been conducted by the U.S.
Army at various military installations. The LDRA reports listed below
were obtained by a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request.

Alabama
Fort McClellan, 1991 - SOME Risk
Fort Rucker, 1992 - Risk not described
Fort Rucker, 1991 (addendum only) - SOME Risk
Redstone Arsenal, 1991 (addendum only) - SOME Risk

Arkansas
Camp Robinson, 1993 - Risk not described
Fort Chaffee, 1991 - SOME Risk
Little Rock Air Force Base, 1995 - MODERATE to HIGH Risk new

California
Camp Pendleton, 1992 - MODERATE Risk
Camp Roberts, 1989 - LOW Risk
Fort Hunter Liggett, 1993 - MODERATE Risk
Fort Ord, 1989 - LOW Risk
Vandenberg Air Force Base, 1995 - HIGH Risk

Connecticut
Stones Ranch Military Reservation, 1992 - HIGH Risk
Stones Ranch Military Reservation, 1989 - SOME Risk
Naval Submarine Base-New London, 1995 - HIGH Risk new

Delaware
Dover Air Force Base, 1994 - HIGH Risk new

Florida
Camp Blanding, 1991 - SOME Risk
Eglin Air Force Base, 1995 - MODERATE Risk new

Georgia
Camp Frank D. Merrill, 1993 - SOME Risk
Fort Benning, 1992 - SOME Risk
Fort Benning, 1991 (addendum only) - SOME Risk
Fort Gordon, 1990 (November) - LOW Risk
Fort Gordon, 1990 (June) - Risk not described
Fort Gordon, 1989 - SOME Risk
Fort Stewart, 1994 - POTENTIAL Risk
Fort Stewart, 1993 - Risk not described
Fort Stewart, 1992 - Risk not described
Fort Stewart, 1991 (addendum only) - SOME Risk
Marine Corps Logistics Base, Albany, 1992 - SOME Risk

Illinois
Savanna Army Depot Activity, 1993 - LOW Risk

Iowa
Iowa Army Ammunition Plant, 1991 - LOW Risk
Iowa Army Ammunition Plant, 1988 - SOME Risk

Kansas
Fort Riley, 1993 - LOW Risk
Fort Riley, 1989 - LOW Risk

Kentucky
Fort Campbell, 1991 - SOME Risk
Fort Knox, 1994 - MODERATE Risk - new
Fort Knox, 1993 - MODERATE Risk - new

Louisiana
Fort Polk, 1987 - POTENTIAL Risk

Maryland
Blossom Point Test Facility, 1993 - HIGH Risk
Fort George G. Meade, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Fort Ritchie, 1990 - LOW Risk (should be HIGH)
Gunpowder Military Reservation, 1992 - MODERATE Risk
Naval Air Station, Patuxent River, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head Division, 1991 - MODERATE
Risk
Woodbridge Research Facility, 1992 - MODERATE Risk

Massachusetts
Camp Curtis Guild, 1992 - LOW Risk
Camp Edwards, 1992 - HIGH Risk
Fort Devens, 1991 - MODERATE Risk

Minnesota
Camp Ripley, 1996 - Risk not described (should be HIGH)
Camp Ripley, 1993 - HIGH Risk
Camp Ripley, 1992 - HIGH Risk

Mississippi
Camp Shelby, 1989 - LOW Risk
Columbus Air Force Base, 1991 - SOME Risk

Missouri
Fort Leonard Wood, 1994 - SOME Risk
Fort Leonard Wood, 1992 - MODERATE Risk
Lake City Army Ammunition Plant, 1993 - LOW Risk

New Jersey
Fort Dix, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Fort Dix, 1988 - SOME Risk
Fort Monmouth, 1992 - LOW Risk
Naval Weapons Station, Earle, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Naval Weapons Station, Earle, 1990 - SOME Risk
Picatinny Arsenal, 1993 - HIGH Risk new
Sea Girt National Guard Training Center, 1992 - LOW Risk

New York
Camp Smith, 1992 - HIGH Risk
Fort Drum, 1993 - LOW Risk
United States Military Academy, West Point, 1992 - MODERATE Risk
United States Military Academy, West Point, 1989 - Risk not described

North Carolina
Fort Bragg, 1992 - MODERATE Risk
Fort Bragg, 1990 - SOME Risk

North Dakota
Grand Forks Air Force Base, 1995 - LOW Risk

Oklahoma
Fort Sill, 1993 - SOME Risk
Fort Sill, 1992 - SOME Risk
McAlester Army Ammunition Plant, 1993 - SOME Risk
McAlester Army Ammunition Plant, 1991 - Risk not described
McAlester Army Ammunition Plant, 1990 - Risk not described

Oregon
Camp Rilea, 1992 - LOW Risk

Pennsylvania
Fort Indiantown Gap, 1991 - MODERATE Risk
Fort Indiantown Gap, 1990 - LOW Risk
Tobyhanna Army Depot, 1992 - MODERATE Risk

South Carolina
Fort Jackson, 1992 - SOME Risk
Fort Jackson, 1990 - LOW Risk
Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, 1995 (memo only) LOW
/MODERATE Risk new

Tennessee
Holston Army Ammunition Plant, 1990 - Risk not described
Volunteer Army Ammunition Plant, 1990 - Risk not described

Texas
Camp Bullis, 1992 - SOME Risk
Fort Hood, 1993 - SOME Risk

Virginia
Fort A.P. Hill, 1992 - HIGH Risk
Fort A.P. Hill, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Fort Belvoir, 1993 - HIGH Risk
Fort Eustis, 1993 - HIGH Risk
Fort Eustis, 1990 - REAL Risk
Fort Lee, 1993 - MODERATE Risk
Fort Lee, 1988 - SOME Risk
Fort Pickett, 1993 - MODERATE Risk
Fort Pickett, 1987 - LOW Risk
Marine Corps Combat Development Command, Quantico, 1991 - HIGH Risk
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren, 1991 - MODERATE Risk
Woodbridge Research Facility, 1993 - MODERATE Risk

Washington
Yakima Training Center, 1993 - LOW Risk

Washington DC
Walter Reed Army Medical Center, 1992 - MODERATE Risk

Wisconsin
Badger Army Ammunition Plant, 1993 - MODERATE Risk
Fort McCoy, 1996 - HIGH Risk
Fort McCoy, 1992 - HIGH Risk
Fort McCoy, 1987 - SOME Risk


Yes, the Army document can be read here. 177 pages
http://www.afpmb.org/pubs/dveps/nort_afr.pdf
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Plenty more info there on other vector-borne diseases in North Africa.
From Elena, eight legs bad nickname ... 1.1.09
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Iowa N.G.. man told me Iowa NG announced 2007, they will pay all bills for LYME DISEASE!! So check with your state's N.G. HQ on their paying lyme bills!
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I got Lyme disease in Dare County, NC in 1998. I wasn't diagnosed until 2007 in West Virginia, despite having an EM rash in 1998.

Good times. [bonk]

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This is why I'm so surprised that they are having a public rally in South Carolina.

The governor OKed it & stated that May 2009 is Lyme awareness month.... It's going to be at the capitol tomorrow.

I haven't been feeling well but I'm going to try to make it. It's at 10am - 11:30am.

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Wait? You mean there's Lyme in NC???

Not according to my old NC docs, oops, I mean ducks.

This is a great article - and I am sending it to family members in NC so they can send it to their ducks-in-denial.

Thanks for posting it.

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