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dsiebenh
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Me!

Fighting Lyme for 20 years was too easy so I decided to get this one too!

Papillary Cancer of the thyroid, several locations.

I have no idea if this is related to my MP experience from 2004 to 2006. I know others have voiced concerns so I am adding my data.

I'm seeing the surgeon tomorrow and complete thyroid removal is in order. Prognosis at this point is good.

Advice from other thyroid cancer survivors is appreciated.

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sixgoofykids
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I'm not a cancer victim, but I wanted to tell you I know someone who had thyroid cancer, had her thyroid removed, did some kind of chemo/radiation (don't know which, but lost her hair), and is fine today. She was really sick. It took her a while to get the thyroid meds balanced, but like I said, she's doing well.

Sorry about the diagnosis.

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quote:
Originally posted by dsiebenh:
Me!

Cancer. Probably the the most frightening word a person can hear. I'm so sorry. My prayers and best thoughts are with you. [group hug]

Please keep in close touch with us.

ping
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Check out Low Dose Naltrexone as a Cancer treatment, and more importantly a preventative.

www.lowdosenaltrexone.org

Dan

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My mother had her thyroid removed 10 years ago for the same reason.

She sees the specialist (endocrinologist, I think) twice a year now. I forget if she ever saw the surgeon after he was finished. Probably not.

She has done very well. I wish you the same outcome.

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i will be praying for you. to have both is something i can't imagine.

a positive attitude will help everything.

praying for ya...

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Just wanted to add my prayers too...I'm so sorry you're having to deal with that on top of Lyme. Is your Lyme under control right now? Keep us posted.

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lemonsnotlymes
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You are in my prayers, too.
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Good thoughts and very best vibes to you and a uper fast recovery!!!!
Sincerely
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That type of cancer has a extremely high rate of success. I had a friend who had it done years ago and she is fine.

Sending blessings your way....... [group hug]

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LymeMECFSMCS
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Thyroid cancer is associated with myasthenia gravis, which can be induced by certain meds including antibiotics from what I remember.

You might want to look into medicinal mushrooms. Many of them have really potent cancer-fighting properties.

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ds, i'm so sorry to read of your thyroid cancer! i've heard good news about it being one of the easier types like it's mentioned above.


ds, you might get more people's attention if you edit your subject line adding THYROID CANCER; anyone else here with that?

just click on pencil, 3rd icon to right of your name, which opens up subject line and body text. click edit send when done.

best wishes and we're here to give you 23/7 support also as you face another journey you didn't plan to walk on. [group hug] [kiss]

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Thanks all for the good wishes!

I've gone downhill pretty fast in the last year and now it looks to me to be more thyroid-related than Lyme. Severe energy issues, lots of walking problems. Yet my blood tests always show normal, including thyroid.

We'll see what the surgeon says today.

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Have had both Thy Ca and Bb dx for a couple of years now. Had both sides of the thyroid removed as nodules were biopsied and cancer was found.

At the time did not know I had Lyme and thought all sxs were related to Thyroid problems....not true. I am monitored by an endo that's aware of my Lyme, although not knowledgable really.

After removal I didn't have to have any chemo but, they did radiation to ablate any remnants of Ty tissue. Rec'd Bb dx later that year.

Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have.

I will keep you in my prayers,

Blessings,
Tic

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I had papillary and follicular thyroid cancer diagnosed in 1991.

My blood work was also normal.

My case was due to radiation exposure. Why would you think the Marshall Protocol has anything to do with this?

The lyme still takes the cake as far as the fatigue and trouble walking.

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quote:
Originally posted by LymeCFIDSMCS:
Thyroid cancer is associated with myasthenia gravis, which can be induced by certain meds including antibiotics from what I remember.

You might want to look into medicinal mushrooms. Many of them have really potent cancer-fighting properties.

I think you mean Thymus cancer....
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Pinelady
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I had mine removed Jan.06. I will tell you the

most important thing is getting a great surgeon

who has done hundreds if not thousands of these.

I took a 3 hr drive just for this. He had to

dissect all my neck to get it all out. I did my

research and was prepared for the worst. As it

would have it it was all benign. But I did lose

one parathyroid to disease. So this is whats most

important-having a surgeon who can identify and

get it out. And place the ones(parathyroid) that are not- in

position to work. Very important.

Would you consider sending Igenex a sample for

testing? I do think total is the way to go so

don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Why? Because

I knew a man who did not go total and he battled

it for 5 years when it went Anaplastic.

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Lonestartick
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I am so very sorry to hear this. You and yours are very much in my thoughts and prayers.

I do so wish other MP-ers who have contracted cancer would share openly so that patients might be aware of all possible risks, which are nay-sayed and glossed over at the MP website. Whether or not there is an official link to the MP and cancer yet, I think people should be aware of all the MP patient data, especially those patients who have not had good outcomes.

I thought you and others might be interested in this link from Dr. Joe Mercola's website:

Importance of D In New Model of Cancer

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Likely not related to Benicar, but perhaps to lowering vitamin D which IS very very cancer protective.

The enormous amt. of inflammation that goes on with lyme, the increased "free radicals" does DNA damage...strand breaks.

This can trigger cancer.

"CONCLUSIONS: Lower circulating levels of 1,25(OH)(2)D(3) are observed in patients with differentiated thyroid carcinoma." PMID: 19499989

In conclusion, H2O2 causes SSBs and DSBs in thyroid cells.

SSB = single strand breaks DSB = double strand breaks (DNA).

Catalase is the anti-oxidant enzyme that is supposed to deal with H2O2.

Google: retinoic acid thyroid cancer

( RA is helpful)

Survival:

"The overall 5-year relative survival rate for 1999-2005 from 17 SEER geographic areas was 97.3%.

Five-year relative survival rates by race and sex were: 94.8% for white men; 98.2% for white women; 91.4% for black men; 95.5% for black women."

The above are really encouraging numbers!!!

Good luck and God Bless.

[ 06-14-2009, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Marnie ]

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Yes. I was going to suggest the avoidance of Vit D which MP promotes. Vit D is turning out to be a superhero against cancer.

Good luck to you and thank you so much for being so thoughtful as to come forth with your illness for the benefit of others.

Susan

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quote:
Originally posted by Marnie:
[QB] Likely not related to Benicar, but perhaps to lowering vitamin D which IS very very cancer protective.

I would agree.

I'll be praying for you and hope your treatment will go very well! Take care and be sure to keep us posted on your progress, OK?!

[group hug]

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I was curious about this so I did some searching.

It turns out there are several documents cases of

Syphilis being found by thyroid goiters. So it may

be very important to have this literature to those who know it all.

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Marnie
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I needed to correct my above post.

Catalase is an anti-oxidant ENZYME...

http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/project917_105.html

It works in something like 1/400,000th of a SECOND!

It is our most abundant anti-oxidant enzyme.

If deficient, Solaray makes SOD which contains all 3 anti-oxidant enzymes...

Our body is truly amazing...making proteins/enzymes/neurotransmitters, breaking them down, making proteins, etc....incredibly fast all the time.

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LymeMECFSMCS
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Just an FYI, no it IS thyroid thymoma (tumors) that are associated with myathenia gravis -- I just doubled checked. If you have extreme weakness and trouble walking you might want to rule out MG.

I didn't know about the Marshall Protocol/cancer possibility -- it's really interesting/disturbing to learn about this.

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Thanks all for the good wishes!!!

I had my thyroid removed last Friday afternoon and was home Saturday morning. The surgeon did an amazing job - one stitch externally and 2 clamps internally. Almost no swelling or physical discomfort. The anesthesia, that was another story.

The chemical changeover in my body is aggravating the Lyme but the important thing is that the doc saw no disease spread beyond the thyroid, even to the local lymph glands. This is really good news. The tests will tell the tale.

In 6 weeks we get radioactive iodine to kill any thyroid tissue remaining, then it's synthetic thyroid meds for life and biannual monitoring. Hopefully the iodine test does not discover any cancerous thyroid tissue elsewhere... but these results are about as good as it gets a week after surgery.

Now back to fighting Lyme...

Dave

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