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seibertneurolyme
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While looking for Lyme books on Amazon I ran across one of those google ads for the website below.

I find this very upsetting -- doubt that the law firm has violated any legal issues in advertising, but think that ILADS and others in the know should be aware of this issue.

The lawsuits have already been publicized, but this is the first I was aware of the website advertising by the lawfirm.

http://www.lymeattorneys.com

Bea Seibert

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This is a copy of the home page on the website for those who do not want to click on the link.

Lyme Attorneys
Wright, Green & Baughman, LLCLyme Disease . . . Lyme Blog Disclaimer Contact Us

Lyme Disease . . .
is real, but it is often diagnosed in individuals who do not have it. This can lead to life-threatening complications from unnecessary and expensive treatment. Patients most in danger of receiving unnecessary and dangerous treatment are often diagnosed with ``chronic lyme.'' The treatment for ``Chronic Lyme'' can consist of high-dose I.V. antibiotic treatment, blood thinners, and dozens of other unnecessary medications and supplements. These treatments can cause severe and permanent damage. Any individual who has received a recommendation for this treatment should seek a second opinion and thoroughly investigate the recommended treatment protocol, means of diagnosis, and the physician recommending treatment.

Many individuals do not find out that they have been misdiagnosed with Lyme disease until after they have suffered the unnecessary treatments for ``chronic lyme.'' While some unscrupulous physicians charge patients tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars for unnecessary treatments, their patients and families are left physically and emotionally devastated.

Wright, Green & Baughman, LLC has experience in helping our clients recover for the pain, suffering, emotional toll, and medical expenses of being misdiagnosed with lyme disease. We have:

Investigated Lyme disease clinics that routinely prescribe I.V. antibiotics for ``chronic lyme''

Investigated unscrupulous laboratory practices that diagnose virtually everyone with lyme disease

Obtained compensation for economic loss and pain and suffering for our clients

Obtained a verdict against a Florida laboratory (Bowen Research and Training Institute) in excess of 23 million dollars

Assisted Boards of Healing Arts in multiple states and the U.S. Attorneys' office in investigating lyme disease misdiagnosis and treatment

If you or a family member has been injured by the misdiagnosis of Lyme disease or chronic illness, call us at (816) 373-2755 or email [email protected] for a free consultation.

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Courthouse News Service: New Lyme Lawsuit

Federal Indictment Charges that Lyme Treatment was Unlawful

Kansas Board of Healing Arts Orders Emergency Suspension of Physician in Lyme Case

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20+Million Dollar Verdict Obtained by Wright, Green & Baughman in Lyme case

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Would someone who has more time than I do please make sure that this info is passed on to LDA, ILADS and the Connecticut Attorney General.

Thanks,

Bea Seibert

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Wow, these people (attorneys) are completely ridiculous. Eek!!!

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breaking this up for neuros like me on the longer paragraphs that we can't comprehend. betty


quote:
Originally posted by seibertneurolyme:


This is a copy of the home page on the website for those who do not want to click on the link.

Lyme Attorneys
Wright, Green & Baughman, LLCLyme Disease . . .


Lyme Blog Disclaimer Contact Us


Lyme Disease . . .
is real, but it is often diagnosed in individuals who do not have it. This can lead to life-threatening complications from unnecessary and expensive treatment.


Patients most in danger of receiving unnecessary and dangerous treatment are often diagnosed with ``chronic lyme.''


The treatment for ``Chronic Lyme'' can consist of high-dose I.V. antibiotic treatment, blood thinners, and dozens of other unnecessary medications and supplements.


These treatments can cause severe and permanent damage.


Any individual who has received a recommendation for this treatment should seek a second opinion and thoroughly investigate the recommended treatment protocol, means of diagnosis, and the physician recommending treatment.

Many individuals do not find out that they have been misdiagnosed with Lyme disease until after they have suffered the unnecessary treatments for ``chronic lyme.''


While some unscrupulous physicians charge patients tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars for unnecessary treatments, their patients and families are left physically and emotionally devastated.


Wright, Green & Baughman, LLC has experience in helping our clients recover for the pain, suffering, emotional toll, and medical expenses of being misdiagnosed with lyme disease.

We have:

Investigated Lyme disease clinics that routinely prescribe I.V. antibiotics for ``chronic lyme''


Investigated unscrupulous laboratory practices that diagnose virtually everyone with lyme disease


Obtained compensation for economic loss and pain and suffering for our clients


Obtained a verdict against a Florida laboratory (Bowen Research and Training Institute) in excess of 23 million dollars


Assisted Boards of Healing Arts in multiple states and the U.S. Attorneys' office in investigating lyme disease misdiagnosis and treatment


If you or a family member has been injured by the misdiagnosis of Lyme disease or chronic illness, call us at (816) 373-2755 or


email [email protected] for a free consultation.


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Article from Kansas City Star: Large Verdict Obtained by Wright, Green & Baughman in Lyme case


Courthouse News Service: New Lyme Lawsuit
Federal Indictment Charges that Lyme Treatment was Unlawful


Kansas Board of Healing Arts Orders Emergency Suspension of Physician in Lyme Case


Recent Posts


New Lyme lawsuit filed by Wright, Green & Baughman


20+Million Dollar Verdict Obtained by Wright, Green & Baughman in Lyme case


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WOW, great find bea!!

i'll email your link here to LDA, ILADS, & BLUMENTHAL.

bettyg, iowa lyme activist

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just emailed the 3 of them bea ... [Smile]
lightning ... off!

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They're part of the reason patients have undiagnosed/misdiagnosed Lyme Disease.

They scare the heck out of physicians who might otherwise consider making the diagnosis.

Why risk that when you can throw it off on a test that says "CDC negative".

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Here is how I handle my "lyme disease".

Even though I have a CDC positive bloodtest showing I have HAD lyme, I don't get positive tests for current infection and my doctor runs the test about once a year.

However, I do have some very bonifide positive test results for babesia wa-1, mycoplasma (very high levels), CPN. My resulting disease is rheumatoid arthritis. No doctor scoffs at that illness and I learned early on to talk about it, not lyme.

Of course, I work with an ILADS LLMD but she and I never say lyme. I am sure if I asked her, she would say she believes I have lyme still, but I don't ask and she doesn't say. We are much more focused on babesia which she says is my main problem.

When I go to mainstream doctors and mention babesia, they look at me strange. One finally asked me to remind him what that is.

I don't moan and whine to these non-believing doctors. I don't persist in educating them about lyme. Heck, I don't even mention lyme other than to say I have had it.

What I do say is I believe ongoing infections are causing my immune system to work overtime resulting in rheumatoid arthritis and that by treating the RA with antibiotics and strengthening my body will nutrition and supplements, I am functioning 100%. 100% functional despite the fact I had a rapid and severe onset of RA in 2005 and by now, I should be disfunctional in any number of ways, but I am not. THIS gets their attention and respect.

My doctor has already been before the medical board and she won. \Now she is adapt at running under the radar. I try to run there also. Hey, I'm just grateful I can run!

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My experience is telling me that few know what Lyme disease is, but most understand what persisting infection is and understand well about the treatment.

I am an environmental engineer and I know I have many terms that some of my colleagues in other engineering disciplines can't possibly imagine their meanings, and vise versa.

Before my wife was diagnosed to have Lyme, she was for 4 years diagnosed to have Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia, or HSP. Now how many of you can tell me what that is right off the bat?

Sometimes I feel that, since we live with this disease, we have the desire that the whole world should know everything about our disease. That is just not realistic and it exhausts our energy to confront the impossible.

I only hope that the medical school will start paying more attention to this disease.

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Apparently there are some lawyers or someone like this here in PA too, because I heard of a doctor's office being shut down because of diagnosing Lyme "too much."

A friend's soon-to-be ex-husband went to this doctor and was diagnosed with Lyme--he's got ALL kinds of psychosis issues, which is basically what destroyed the marriage.

Anyway, after this doctor was shut down, my friend started researching Lyme and now knows everything she needs to know about it.

Of course, all her research was done on IDSA sites, and she completely supports this doctor being shut down, because Lyme is not that serious and not that common.

She and I have hardly spoken since I was diagnosed because she doesn't believe I have it.

These types of lawyers are just a joke, and they just do more harm than good.

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My idea has always been to find a willing attorney to sue the crap out of the mainstream doctors who have done this to us prior to our diagnosis by turning a blind eye to us.

In fact, when I went in first presenting with symptoms of LD in 2004 and my primary care poo-pooed it. Because of her lack of knowledge her mistake has now led me down a road 5 years later with more problems. Quite honestly I think SHE owes me!

The evil side of me has reared its head this morning. Class action against practices that turn us away! Wouldnt that be fun!

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Since Bowen Research and Training Institute was mentioned in this website, I am wondering if anyone has any direct knowledge of this lab and how they practiced.

I too am troubled with those reckless lawyers out there "do whatever is necessary" to get their business going.

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I think I will write these lawyers and ask them if they take people who were misdiagnosed with FM, CFS, MS etc...who actually have contracted Lyme Disease.

There are far many who go undiagnosed that have been dx'd incorrectly with syndromes.

Thing that is crazy to me is that with Lyme you can't prove that you don't have it, so how do they get away with this???

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Well, I was mad enough to write them. Whether they will read it or not, I don't know. I hope I was calm enough to send them an honest picture of Lyme Disease. So, don't beat me up because I didn't go into testing and all that. I just hoped to get them thinking.

Wright, Green & Baughman, LLC


Hi, my name is Shalome. I have Lyme Disease. I would take a gander that you are in the legal business becuse you want to make money, help others, or to ensure that that the wheels of justice are turning as it should.


If you are in this for money, I guess I will never sway you. Unless I can tell you that there are a lot more people with Lyme who have been harmed by being undiagnosed than people that have been harmed by Lyme Doctors. I also pray that one of your family does not come down with Lyme Disease. You will then know the horrors that we face on a daily basis. ( I would love to see all the folks who don't believe in lyme stand by their statements and get bit by at tick and waive treatment because there is no long term Lyme Disease).


If you are taking these cases to help others, you are not helping, but hurting the thousands and thousands of people with Lyme Disease. You would actually be helping a lot more people by finding all the people with lyme and taking our case to court, there would surely be enough Plantiffs to make an impression.


Finally, if you are in the business to ensure the wheels of justice are turning as they should, again, you are falling short. Lyme sufferers are not getting medical care because "supposedly" there isn't long term Lyme Disease (not true). Lyme sufferers are in pain and can't get medication for their pain. Lyme sufferers are so tired that for days on end, they can not get out of bed. We lose our jobs. We are throw away by the medical professionals who took an oath to "Do No Harm" The wheels of justice should be working with us, not against us.


My story, similar to others in that I was an active child. I swam on the swim team, I played volleyball and softball. Unfortunately, we loved to go out and jump in the leaves with our dad. As an adult, I have worked two jobs in the past to make ends meet, until finally the lyme kicked me in the gut. I am filing for disability because I can't work. I will lose my home because of the medical bills and the distance I have to travel to get someone who will treat me and treat me with respect, not tell me I have Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia, or Depression (all untreatable syndromes). And the strage thing is, the only thing that I have tested positive for is Lyme Disease, and I am considered CDC positive.


Finally, because of this malpractice, my five year old daughter has lyme disease. We have both been given a life sentence to live a lonely, empty life, not knowing what we could have done if we didn't have Lyme.


I hope you have taken the time to read this. I hope you spend some additional time researching people with Lyme and get to understand our pain. There are several resources I could send you so you can get the REAL truth about Lyme Disease.


Thanks,

Shalome

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Well, I can tell you that this law firm does not give a hang about justice. They are in it for the money and see this as a lucrative new focus for a podunk firm that has five employees. There is no other explanation. Gives new meaning to the term shyster. (Not all attorneys are in this group.)
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wow, lots more of replies since i replied in wee am...

class action lawsuits have been mentioned many times and info is found in ACTIVISM board.

2-3 ARE looking into this for us activiely.

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Looks like others have the same idea that I had.

I sent the following to the attorney this morning. We'll see if they respond.

I have broken it up for easy reading.

Re: Will you take my case?

To whom it may concern,
I have been misdiagnosed with FMS and Chronic Fatigue syndrome for 20+ years when I actually have a treatable illness, chronic Lyme disease!

I lost my job and my ability to live a normal life. I suffered with excruciating pain and debilitating fatigue along with many other symptoms for 20+ years.

I am happy to report that I have had many improvements in 3 years of treatment. The most significant is that my overall body wracking pain has been reduced by 70%. I have a long ways to go because I was misdiagnosed for so long.

According to the CDC and the NIH, my State is endemic for Lyme disease but getting a test took me 3 years. I was told over and over that we don't have Lyme disease here.

That claim is not supported by the facts. According to the State Veterinary Medical Association, lab results and surveys of veterinary clinics indicate that there have been over 500 reported cases in animals in Oregon in one year. (http://www.oregonvma.org/petowners/lyme.asp)

While some Veterinarians in my State recognize Lyme disease, most Doctors do not and even if they do, they will not treat it for fear of reprisals.

People in my State are diagnosed with anything but Lyme disease. We have lots of MS, Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Parkinson's Disease patients. Many of them may actually have misdiagnosed Lyme disease. The symptoms greatly overlap and none of the tests for these conditions (including Lyme disease) are conclusive.

Lyme disease is supposed to be excluded before one is diagnosed with Fibromyalgia or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and yet I was diagnosed with both by more than one Doctor without ever being tested for Lyme disease.

Unfortunately I have to pay for most of my medical care out of pocket because of the political battle going on with lyme Disease diagnosis and treatment.

The medical environment for Lyme disease in my State is so toxic for both doctors and patients that Lyme patients must go to other States for treatment. Many travel to a nearby State where there is legislation in place to protect doctors who treat Lyme disease.

I would like to sue the writers of the IDSA Lyme disease guidelines. I believe there are a lot of people like me who would be happy to join a class action lawsuit.

A.G. Blumenthal of Connecticut has found conflicts of interest in the authors who wrote the guidelines (http://www.ct.gov/ag/cwp/view.asp?a=2795&q=414284).

The guidelines are used by insurance companies to deny coverage and thus many people, including several of my family members, are dying a slow, painful death because they are disabled with chronic Lyme disease and do not have the money or physical ability to travel to another State for medical treatment.

Unfortunately, if treatment continues to be unavailable in my State, my mother, brother, sister and others like them, will continue to suffer unimaginable pain and will eventually die with untreated Lyme disease.

Please consider helping us but at the very least, please don't harm the few doctors who are willing to help us.

Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXXXX

[ 06-18-2009, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: TerryK ]

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Terry K and Shalome,

You guys rock!!!! I am writing a letter too. I want to come across as calm and composed(which is not always easy with the discrimination that we have encountered with this illness).

I think it's great that we are trying to educate them(or at the least if they are in this for the money, than to make them question their ethics).

Anyway, great letter ladies!!!!! =)

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I hadn't read all these posts, just looked at the site. Sorry but mine wasn't so nice.
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My father was a personal injury attorney. He never understood lyme. He never even read the book I sent him (He looked it up in his medical book and it just said "no big deal" in effect). He died thinking I was just a wimp.


I actually have to wonder if some attorneys (just like some doctors) simply don't have the ability to understand something that is not so black and white.


My father was a tremendous help to those hurt by accidents or faulty equipment. He could easily identify the problem in how the accident occurred. He could also very well see, on X-rays, exactly where the patient's pain was coming from.


I don't know if it was law school or just the way his brain worked (or didn't) but he had a very hard time understanding anything that was not black and white.


Any lawyers who stoop to such lows as to advertise in this sort of manner - or behave as they did in Kansas City case - well, I seriously wonder if they have the capacity for intelligent thought.


If they did, and they proceed in this manner they simply have to be sharks, out for blood. Or they have to be blind to the truth of what tick-borne infections can do as well as ignorant as to medical treatments (and the supplements are even harder for some to understand).


I sure wish I could say this exactly as I'd like. I just can't make the right sentences. Guess I'm just saying they either must have brain dysfunction or very sick souls to be behaving as they are
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As for "showing them" what lyme is, my father saw me but he even walked away from seizures thinking I was just "acting out" because the phone startled me. He was hard of hearing so sound triggered seizures made even less sense to him. And he could never really ever see the fatigue or brain fog. He had never experienced that so he had no space in his brain for it.


I don't know how to provide the best information for someone who sees only on black and white but it is very important to try to find ways to work with the way their brains work.

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Money hungry is my thought.
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keebler, your dad has been watching over you from heaven now, and he is NOW A LYME ATTORNEY FROM HEAVEN!!

just wished he could bring his heavenly powers here & straighten out attorneys like the above and change the idsa wrotten guidelines/attitudes, etc.


you are anything but a WIMP! love you dear friend [group hug] [kiss]

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Put up to this by IDSA is my thought.
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I'm sure if the IDSA panel has a "class action" lawsuit of all the people "hurt" by too many abx to waive around at the upcoming hearing, they will feel like they have a little piece of heaven in their hands.
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shalome and terry,

outstanding letters you too wrote! thanks so much for writing on behalf of ALL of us nationwide/internationally! xox

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Hi,

I feel the same as the others, however I would caution anyone who is baiting these guys not to actually engage with them re: them taking on one of our cases, or us disclosing too much information.

They have clearly stated their position, and I think it plausible that any information we give them could be turned against our cause.

A more worthwhile use of frustrated energy would be to go over to the activism board and see what you can do to move forward the class action suit Betty mentioned, or petition your political representatives, etc.

Best wishes,

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I agree. These are sharks out for blood, not liable to be swayed by rational letters from us.

I see that a lot in lyme patients, a trusting belief that right will triumph in the end and that reasoned discussion and a bushel of proofs will change the opposition's behavior.

Has the IDSA changed? Has the CDC or NIH changed?

NO

And the poster above is correct--don't give them information that can be used against you, or us. They are obviously in league with IDSA types.

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This is another huge problem with our country right now and it's a lot of the reason we are in the situation with a lot of the current problems we face as a nation.

The greed of people like this is amazing.

I agree that these types of lawyers care nothing about people and are money making machines(for themselves)....

We do need to be careful with how we react to them.

They obviously have no conscience or morals or values for that matter.

I don't think a couple of letters would hurt, but I do think that once we know they are not ethical then we need to be careful.

Handle with care.

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I would encourage people from this site to write, even just a few sentences, to these lawyers and let them know that you think advertising for misdiagnosed lyme cases is disgusting and morally reprehensible, especially given the inadequacy of proper diagnostic testing for the disease. The disease, as we all know, is predominantly one that must be reviewed clinically. If well-intentioned doctors are afraid to treat, many will profoundly suffer. If there's enough of an outcry, these disgusting lawyers might listen as they are concerned about hurting the rest of their business (ie non-lyme cases).

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I wouldn't assume that these lawyers know all about the politics of Lyme disease or about the terrible damage they could be doing.

I personally think it is important for them to be informed about the other side of the issue.

That said, I agree that it is important to be careful about the information we give. For example, I would not give out names of LLMD's, treatments etc..

Terry

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up for 1 of posters who wrote them; wrote them back!! they will post here i hope!
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These guys are nothing but ambulance chasers...
What a sad and pathetic practice they have, too bad they are scraping the barrel for clients.

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This is the email I just sent to this attorney's email address:

The day will come, probably in your lifetime, when you'll have to sleep at night knowing you worked against people suffering with lyme disease, and caused hoards of ill people to find it more difficult to get treatment.

But you'll probably be fine with that.

Mary
lyme victim
three children with chronic lyme



Mary in Switzerland [cussing]

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I sent them the same letter I sent to Erin Brockovich...

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