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I know a lot of people here and people I personally know that use the Fry Labs test for co-infections. But I am starting to have concerns, it seems that everyone has this supposed "bartonella"
I know many people that are perfectly healthy that did the test and the next thing they know, their blood smears come back positive for this "bartonella". In fact every single person that does the test seems to be positive just like the Bowen Labs Lyme smear did years back...
It also seems that no one ever gets their "bartonella" to go away with treatment. Or in other words, those "bugs" always seem to stay there no matter what.
Has anyone confronted their LLMD or Dr. F about this? Any opinions?
I know that he is a good doctor and is trying to help us out but I am beginning to really wonder about this test and its accuracy...
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karenl
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It is a good question. I started with extreme density more than 5 on my first test. But even after years aggressive treatment I have " few" what means density 2.
But "it " went from 5 to 2. His staff told me they only can see it is a cocci form and they never say this is bartonella, some doctors do.
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Leelee
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I am interested in hearing what others have to say about this topic.
I was satisfied with the results of my Fry smear, but I know that, understandably, others have concerns.
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bettyg
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buster, hi there,
click on SEARCH at top of page, it's been discussed heavily in the past
type in FRY LABS medical subject any date leave membership no. blank; click search
read all posts/replies; if none click BACK, change subject to text; click search
do same thing as before ... again MANY past comments have been made without everyone reinventing the wheel ok. good luck ....
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sorry but that is not true...I started on a very bad smear to nothing on my smears..this was done many times...so it is accurate..my opinion
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We are still in unknown territory with some of the bugs in lyme patients. The big boys, NIH and CDC, are not interested, would prefer that nothing else gets learned about tickborne diseases. So, people who are impatient about the progress in learning what is in our blood need to get mad at the right people.
The person who started this thread suggested that perfectly healthy people are being tested and found to have bugs in blood. It seems very unlikely to me that any perfectly healthy person would be paying for testing. Who would do this? It is sick people who get tested. I consider this to be an unfounded and odd sort of statement.
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Lou, these are healthy people related to sick lyme patients that have been tested out of curiosity. I know atleast 5 people personally that are healthy as can be, but tested anyways because the LLMD suggested it as precaution. All tests had the little black dots in the smears.
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Speaking of big boys I found this on another post. Does anyone else know of this grant?
. . there's now genetic proof of the exact organism reeking so much havoc and within the year this doctor projects (thanks to, among other things, a grant from the Department of Defense) he'll have the ability to discern more concretely and scientifically what treatment(s) will be most effective
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kelmo
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Buster, I'm sure 99% of the population is infected. We never had a tick bite, we believe mosquitoes were the vector.
That being said. If you have a healthy immune system, you can carry many organisms in your body and appear healthy.
All it takes is a trauma and the immune system takes a prolonged dip, then all these organisms have an opportunity to make us sick.
I think this explains why it can be dormant in some people for a while.
If that's true, my daughter was most like infected when she was 18 months old, but didn't start getting sick until puberty. Then a trauma with a high school teacher took her the rest of the way.
At the time she was infected in 1990, my husband came down sick three months later, then stayed ill for three years. I continued to get ill, but he is functioning pretty well.
We're just watching our son, now.
So, yes, I believe healthy people can have these organisms show up in their blood smear.
However, I had no organisms show up and I was having severe fatigue, siezures, and lung problems. I'm now in treatment for an infection I probably contracted 19 years ago.
Does that answer the question?
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