LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management
JUNE 26, 2008 Lyme-Autism Connection Conference, Indian Wells
Steven Harris, MD
Here is what page 80 states:
Laboratory support in diagnosis
Many patients will not develop a positive IgG response until the end of disease. If a positive IgG is present it will generally indicate one of several things:
The patient does not have Lyme disease.
Many asymptomatic, healthy partners or siblings of Lyme patients may test positive if their immune system is exposed an/or are warding off a Borrelia infection.
One has had the Lyme vaccine.
Lab workers, veterinarians, dentists, and hunters.
One has a healthy immune system and is fighting Bb well.
It is a positive predictor of length of time likely required for treatment.
[ 06-27-2009, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: HollyS ]
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I don't think this is saying that siblings and partners have a false positive. It is just indicating they can be asymptomatic and have the bacteria and their bodies are fighting it off.
It is kinda like HIV/Aids. You can have HIV but not AIDS. HIV is the virus but doesn't mean you are symptomatic and have Aids. HIV will develop into Aids at some point.
You can have Bb bacteria without Lyme only meaning you don't have the symptoms of the disease yet. It can be dormant. Without treatment it will develop into Lyme at some point.
Does that make sense? That is how I am reading it.
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Yes, it is the first sentence after the heading "The Patient Does Not have Lyme disease".
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No problem. Posts: 94 | From Kansas City Area | Registered: Jun 2009
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Pinelady
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This is GREAT. I love the sticky note quote:
Some people kill themselves. Some people want to but are too tired to find their sticky notes written how they were going to pull it off.
We needed this now.
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Our very experienced pediatric LLMD (Dr. J) told me that in some families all will test positive but he only treats those that have symptoms. For this reason he does not like to test people unless they have symptoms.
This means that they have antibodies from exposure, but their bodies were able to fight it off.
It is a clinical diagnosis and the testing is a supplement to that diagnosis.
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It is frustrating to know what to do without symptoms and positive tests. I was proactive.
I treated my two children, one with symptoms and one without symptoms, as both had the positive bands.
The child without symptoms never had a herx, and only developed more candida over the year of me treating him. He tested positive for bartonella as well, and never was able to get the numbers down. But had no symptoms.
Now I wish I never treated him. As I think his immune system is doing it's job. But my llmd insisted I do it. He is not being treated any more.
My other child with symptoms, did very well on the treatment and did have major herx's followed by improvements into lyme remission now. (1 1/2 years)
So I agree, only treat the cases with symptoms.
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I think the statement by Steven Harris makes zero sense on the IgG meaning. I have 4 positive IgG bands and 4 IND bands on Igenix. I feel horrible. C'mon?
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TerryK
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Holly and seek - could you please remove the full name of the Doctor and change it to Dr. H.?
Thanks, Terry
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