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middlesizedpanda
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I've now had 3 negative tests including a wb & my dr thinks i've got to look at other causes for my symptoms including ms.

What I can't understand is that when I was on 4 wks of doxy, I felt loads better. When I stopped I felt worse, Initially symptoms seemed to come back quite quickly & then continued to increase over the next few weeks.

As you can guess, i've been searching the web & have come across this :


http://www.davidwheldon.co.uk/ms-treatment1.html

I'm no medical expert, but this seems to say that ms can be treated with the same abx as lyme.

Can MS & Lyme actually be closely related? Maybe MS is triggered by Lyme?

I've looked through some old posts and similar issues have been discussed in the past.

I've got 3 more weeks doxy from my dr and have an appointment with an immunologist in 3 wks - guess I'll have to wait and see what he thinks.

Anyone have any thoughts or more info on this?

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dmc
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I was labled "MS" for 17yrs before finding a true LLMD. In fact the Doctor who did the dvd presentation "Chronic Lyme Disease: Connection to MS- Facts behind the controversy" the #5 educational material from this website: http://www.newhaven.edu/unh/lyme/

He's my hero.

Also look into LDN http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org

LDN is also now being used for Lyme as well

good luck

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You can find hundreds of posts here on the hypothesis Lyme is MS, ALS, and endless diseases. Try the search function. There's a wealth of feedback here. [Smile]
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panda,'

what specific lab did your western blot igm and igg?
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hope it was: igenex, mdl, fry labs, clongen, stoneybrooke or florida's lab !!

they are the most LYME DIAGNOSTIC labs we have in usa!!

also, what were your POSITIVE & IND nos.

list them for each igm and igg please
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MS AND LYME: The DVD about lyme and MS at www.unh-lyme.org may be of interest to you. It's $15, and proceeds go to support Dr. S's research.
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Timaca

BELOW IS SAME DVD!

PLEASE, order this DVD from the University of New Haven.... http://www.newhaven.edu/unh/lyme/


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Tests were done at the NHS Southampton Lab, Would not give the full result - even to my GP - just said it was negative. My GP demanded a copy of the results and was told it would take 3 weeks to get it sent out, refused to fax it. - Total madness, I was in her office when she rang so I know its what they said.

I know I'm going to have to send a test to the US. The problem is that the dr's here wont treat from the result anyway. At least i would know for myself. Theres only one LLMD in UK taking new patients,hes a long distance from me and VERY expensive.

If i'm getting treatment i'm prepared to go along with them for the time being.

Maybe they're right - I don't get night sweats, infact i hardly sweat at all anymore. I don't have swollen glands & I don't get bad headaches, just a strange feeling of numbness in the back of my head, bit like if you,ve just taken off a hat.

I do have bad tingling especially in my wrists & ankles. I do have extreme fatigue & muscle aches. Also I do have alot of clicking in my joints - loads of them - shoulders, elbows, hands, fingers, knees, ankles & toes - this seems to be more specific to lyme. & tinitius.

Thank you for the links, I'm going to do loads more reading up on this before I go for the next appointment.

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midsize if you did not challenge on the western

blot, meaning no antibiotics before testing and off

for 10 days, I know I would have been neg. by

Igenex also. I did 3 months of homemade

antibiotic and had a lot of IND but enough pos to

be pos also. If you feel better on the doxy

continue. Then restest like stated if you are not

convinced. But MS is a syndrome of unknown

origin. I think I am glad I fought for a cause

and thankful Igenex was there for me.

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Suspected Lyme 07 Test neg One band migrating in IgG region
unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND
IgM neg pos
31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 +
DX:Neuroborreliosis

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