luvs2ride
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Not me. I don't trust it. Also, I am on an immune suppressor so I am exempt.
BTW, we already had a big long row about this recently. Just do a search on flu vaccine and you should read all kinds of arguments for/against and research to support both sides.
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Abxnomore
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I'm not getting it either. I don't want to be a guinea pig for some new untested vaccine. I have never gotten a flu vaccine in my life, any way.
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My wife, my kids, and I are all getting the regular flu shot as well as the Swine flu shot, if available.
Having tick borne disease in the family, for approximately 6 and one half years, has taught us many lessions.
First and foremost is the abuse dished out by the overpaid medical profession.
During her illness she has been told many things:
"you are not really ill, it is all in your head",
"you and your husband have shared delusions regarding Lyme disease",
"stop screaming in pain or we will put you out in the parking lot",
why don;t you check yourself into a nursing home" (she was 36 years old at the time),
"it is this hospital's policy to not treat Lyme disease",
"why are you bringing that woman into the ER again", etc.
Let us suppose that my poor wife did contract the flu on top of Borrelia, Bartonella, and Babesia that she already suffers from.
In such a case she could find herself in a life or death situation because she could potentially be denied anti-flu treatment all because she "is the crazy lady and we have seen her before and there was nothing wrong with her."
The flu vaccine is not risk free, but because it is made every year, scientists have a very good understanding as to its positive and negative effects. The vaccine is reasonably well characterized and is as safe as it can be.
We are willing to take a small risk with the vaccine and prevent illness, rather than taking a much more dangerous risk depending upon a medical system that is cruel and full of prejudice.
Godspeed.
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sutherngrl
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I heard the vaccine only last 2 months, so if you are interested in getting it, you might want to time it to protect you through the worst part of the epidemic.
At this point I am against taking it, but will ask my LLMD Monday at my appointment his opinion on it.
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The H1N1 vaccine is going to include the additive "squaline". This is a scary substance; it is an excito-toxin and overstimulates the immune system. It can (can) create serious issues for some.
I'm personally staying away.
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lpkayak
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my llmds have always told me not to take the flu shot
snailhead said: "it is an excito-toxin and overstimulates the immune system"
now-i'm foggy and not all that smart to begine with, but...i have read more than once that the problem with this flu is it is more dangerous for those with strong immune systems...it is the immune system that ends up killing ppl
so why would they want to put something in that makes it worse
also-today i heard since there isn't enough tami flu to go around-now they want young healthy ppl to not get it...but if they are the most vulnerable....this doesn't make sense?????
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sammy
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I will get the seasonal flu vaccine within the next couple weeks and I will need to get the H1N1 vaccine when it is available.
I work with children and am highly exposed to any community outbreak. It would be wrong for me not to get the flu vaccine when I could potentially become infected and pass the infection on to innocent newborns before I begin to exhibit symptoms. Going without the vaccine would not be a responsible thing for me to do.
I also cannot afford to miss a day of work let alone a week of work if I were to fall ill with the flu. I certainly cannot afford a hospital visit or stay if I were to develop complications of H1N1.
Vaccines are created to help our bodies recognize and fight off potentially deadly diseases. I am grateful to have the extra protection.
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I am not going to get it or any flu shots. All of my practioners,LLMD's say not to.
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lpkayak
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sammy-i would read a little more about this vaccine...made from live virus, additives that are bad for you, no test period, last time more died from vaccine than from flu
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pamoisondelune
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Consider LOMATIUM as an anti-viral, anti-herpetic, anti-flu preventive and flu treatment.
You can read about it on the internet, how it protected the Washoe Indian tribe from the 1918 flu pandemic. No one died. I've posted the article previously, here.
I have some personal experience with LOMATIUM that leads me to trust it alot more than from just reading about it.
It cured, completely cured, my herpes simplex lip sores. LOMATIUM permanently eradicated this life-long (latent w outbreaks)herpes infection.
And PS, i'm not getting the flu vaccines. I'm confident that there are enough herbal anti-virals, especially LOMATIUM.
Dr Frank Shallenberger on the internet, whose newsletter i subscribe to, has a flu treatment that he says has never failed to work. It's a spray that first, you have your doctor mix up, then it can be stored for 3 months in the fridge. At the first sign of flu symptoms, you put 3 cc's of this mixture into an asthma inhaler with a face mask and breathe it. The first day, do this (how often--- copyrighted information); the second and third day (---copyrighted information).
As for the ingredients of the spray, they looked reasonable to me (though i know nothing), but it's copyrighted information. The Dr makes a living selling the information about his formula, so you can pay him for the knowledge, if you are curious, at: www.realcuresletter.com
----Polly Polygonum
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Pinelady
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Last year I believe we lost more aged to the vax than to the flu. But they said they died of the flu. If it did not protect them and they died anyway why?
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Pinelady
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take the jab. Last years results are an indication
to me that it actually caused illness not helped.
My sister took the jab last year against my wishes and she
developed pneumonia that took her 4 months to get
over and she said I wish I had listened to you.
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lpkayak
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where do you get lomatium? what brand is good? what does it cost? is it a pill? thanks
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