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Samandaxo
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My poor brother just went to see another MD for a

second opinion...he just wanted to see if he

should be on a different and stronger regimen of

medication. Well would you believe that this

doctor told him that he DOES NOT HAVE LYME!!

I am at a loss.....he still suffers daily with

eye problems and has seen numerous specialists

who ruled out everything....Lyme was our last

and only diagnosis....I just dont understand how

one doctor can look at blood results and

symptoms and come up with a Lyme diagnosis and

another doctor can look at the same results and

symptoms and state with utter confidence that my

brother does not have Lyme and she stated she is

100 percent sure of this???!!!!! I dont even

know what to tell him at this point...I am so

disgusted....He is now trying to get into the

Mayo clinic to see if he can find out what is

wrong???!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Help!!!!!!!!!!! [bonk]

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seekhelp
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What kind of doc made this diagnosis? First and second types?
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Okay please steere him away from the Mayo clinic - they are so anti-lyme it's not even funny and they are very expensive. He'll walk away broke from God knows how many useless tests and some blanket diagnosis that's absolutely worthless.

Go to the "Seeking a Doctor" section here and post for an LLMD nearest you. A Lyme doctor is the only one that can definatively diagnose him with Lyme - IF that's not his problem then they can rule it out and point him in the right direction. Good luck!

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If you read more on this site, you will see that most doctors are completely ignorant about lyme.

Our Yale-eduacted family doctor told my husband to get an MRI to check for a brain tumor when his headaches came back a year after treating for lyme (after a positive test). She refused to believe it was the lyme coming back since he had been treated for 3 weeks the year before and this time his lyme test was negative.

Eye issues are very common lyme symptoms. My entire family is infected with lyme, including my 3 young children. My 5 year old saw colored spots during the first year of his lyme treatment. His twin brother had eye pain. Fortunately that has gone away for each.

Other people complain of blurry vision or floaters or eye pain.

I would definitely stay away from the mayo clinic or infectious disease docs, as you will discover that they are on the wrong side of the current lyme controversy.

You might also look at symptoms lists to see if your brother has other symptoms that he doesn't realize are lyme.

Best of luck,

tickbattler

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Samandaxo
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Thanks so much for your advice! However I would

think that this Doctor would be LLMD because she

works at a Lyme Disease Center in NJ??? She

looked at every bit of all my brother's results

from Igenex and refutted the posibility of Lyme?

Now my brother is going to a 3rd LLMD...I dont

even know what to say at this point or how to

support him anymore.....are there NO TESTS to

actually check for the spirochete under a

microscope?????

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Pinelady
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A bone marrow biopsy? What does his WB see?

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I wouldn't be sure the second doc is an LLMD ..... there is no way to be certain a person does not have Lyme. There is no test that shows 100% that someone is not infected.

Can you post his IGeneX results here?

Mayo Clinic will tell him it's not Lyme. If it is Lyme, they will be no help whatsoever.

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Has he had a Western Blot lyme test done through Igenex?

Also - has he reviewed the list of about 75 or 100 symptoms that could be lyme? It would be odd if ONLY his eyes were involved and nothing else, but it is possible to have only a few symptoms at a time.

Just b/c it's a lyme center does not mean that the doc is completely lyme literate. One LLMD doc in NJ my husband went to for a short time completely misdiagnosed our neighbor who CLEARLY had lyme, and this doc was formerly the president of ILADS!

The best answer is to do your own research to educate yourself and ask a lot of questions on this site.

Also, I would get another opinion from an LLMD.

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seibertneurolyme
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One very good doc told hubby a long time ago that he didn't like the words always and never. If someone told me they were 100% sure of my diagnosis then I would probably be looking for another doc.

Lyme is a clinical diagnosis with supporting tests (if you are lucky).

The real test is how a person responds to treatment.

And if the Lyme Treatment Center in New Jersey is the one who recently published the article saying that there was no such thing as chronic Lyme -- it was all in the person's head (psychiatric or somatization disorder etc) -- well then run the other way and don't believe anything they say.

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mayo is as bad or worse than the 2nd opinion doc

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If a doctor says "you don't have Lyme" by looking at test results, they are *not* a LLMD.

The sensitivity for the two-tier Lyme testing is at 46%. In order to be considered an *accurate* test it has to be at 95% or higher. Enough said, right?

The tests aren't accurate. It's a clinical diagnosis.

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Lyme is a clinical diagnosis! Any doc that says otherwise is not Lyme literate.
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Just because they say it's a "lyme disease center" doesn't mean it's Lyme Literate nor affiliated with ILADS.

It could be a IDSA guideline center.

Where is this place? What is the website? Post it and see if we have info on it.

I agree with lymielauren, go to seeking a doctor and find one that is a member of ILADS.

Also, I agree with the others, please post the WB results and tell us the lab that did the test.

James

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yes, james that is very true.

i went to a proclaimed lyme center near me and even though there were many folks in the office with lyme, he didnt believe i had it after complaining of dozens of symptoms, my regular MD said I had it, and a CDC positive test!

thank goodness i went to another doctor ASAP.

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