so i got a positive western blot a while back and as you may know, kind of doubted it because i dont have classic lyme symptoms..
but over reading and looking at all my symptoms (mainly food allergies, leaky gut, dizzy stuff)
i've come to think i do have it..
i just recently had a test through IGENEX which tested for antibodies to babesiosis and bartonella (spelling?)..
i tested negative for bart, and negative for babs ducani (spelling?),
but POSITIVE for babesiosis but the second word started with an M.. micor (i forget).. what's the difference between both the babs? is one worse than the other?
i was wondering if anyone had a symptoms list for babs and what it means to have it?
also, if one has a POSITIVE babs test, does that mean even more so, that one has Lyme if there questioning it like myself?
what does babs do in the body and is it hard to kill?
any info would be great on this.
thanks for the help scott
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so is there any question if someone has a positive antibodies test for Babesia microti that they have it?
like the western blot i mean.. there's always SOOO much interpretation with the western blot, whether you have it or not..
is it the same way with Babesia microti? if you have a positive, is that definite that you have the parasite?
thanks scott
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Scott, if you have a positive on the Babesia microti from Igenex, you definitely have it. It also proves that you have lyme disease too since you would not get the Babesia alone. It just doesn't happen that way.
(There are a few different babs tests done by Igenex. One actually looks at the red blood cells to see if they can see any babesiosis in the cells. That is the test that was positive for me. You may want to read the Igenex website with your test results in front of you to learn more about the test that found your babesiosis.)
The tick gives us many diseases in the one bite. Lyme, babesia, bartonella, etc. So, if a person gets a positive for one of the coinfections (babesia or bartonella, or ehlichia), then that proves they also have lyme disease.
By the way, I also didn't have the classic lyme symptoms, so I suffered for years with a diagnosis of menopause.
All that shows is that lyme has the ability to present itself many, many different ways. Some start out with a rheumatoid arthritis diagnosis, or fibromyalgia, or chronic fatigue, or ALS, or any number of other diagnoses.
Babesiosis microti is generally easier to kill than babesiosis duncani. I had microti along with lyme and bartonella.
On p. 26 of Burrascano's lyme treatment guidelines, there is a list of babs symptoms. He also has a section on treating babs. I actually suggest that you STUDY this document over and over to become educated on the diseases you have. Then, you will be able to recognize good lyme treatment and babesiosis treatment as opposed to inadequate treatment. The document is here:
Also, near the top of "Medical Questions" is a post that lists the symptoms for babesiosis and all the other coinfections. It is called "Lyme Disease and Coinfection Symptom List."
Just go down, down, down until you get to the babs list. I really didn't have many symptoms of babs, but I know I had it (had a positive Igenex test for it) because of what happened when I started treating it! Wow! So, don't doubt the diagnosis if you don't have many of the babs symptoms. Treat it and see what happens.
Babesiosis gets inside your red blood cells and explodes them. So, since these cells carry oxygen to your body, and yours are being exploded, you can expect to have fatigue. Terrible fatigue. Because, your body is not getting enough oxygen to your cells.
Your body is continually having to make new red blood cells. But immature red cells can't carry oxygen, so you are always "behind the game" so to speak with the oxygen thing. I also had extreme muscle weakness. Maybe this is the oxygen thing again. Don't know.
So, it is time to find the very best lyme doctor you can, if you are not already with one. Keep learning, and don't give up. Wish you the best.
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