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wtl
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How many of you are growing this at home?

Do you drink kefir as a substitute to probiotic or just supplementing in addition to probiotic?

And where is the source you shop for kefir grains?

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I don't make it myself, but I am drinking the organic Kefir, plus I take a probiotic with it also. I absolutely love drinking the Kefir. Helps my stomach more than anything!
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I make mine. It's simple. I got my grains at kefirlady.com .... she sent them to me and I sent her $20 cash. First batch not so good because it's a little yeasty after shipping .... now it's wonderful! I love it.

I also make my own sauerkraut and kombucha. I am not on abx or herbs so I don't take any other probiotics.

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Thanks, six.

Good to hear the one you recommended is the one I have been thinking about. Good to know she is in Ohio too.

Any thought on water vs. milk?

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Making your own lessens the amount of sugar that will be in it. The store bought kind has too much sugar.

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Well, if you use milk you can keep using the kefir grains. Don't the water ones get used up? You could do both. I'm making kombucha so don't "need" the water one. If you try it, please post about it, I'd love to hear how you like it. The kefir is great. If you blend it, it's smooth like in the store.

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When I was treating lyme, I made my own kefir. It is far superior to what you buy in any store!

I got the grains from a friend. He got them from a kefir website where many kefir lovers were offering free grains. The lady that sent him some grains only wanted $5 to cover her shipping costs. He paid her through Paypal.

It took a while for the grains to begin producing good kefir. That's because they are traumatized by the shipping process in which they are taken out of their milk (their food) and put in dry milk crystals.

So, be prepared to waste a lot of milk for the first week or 2 while you get your kefir grains back to good health.

After that, you will have wonderful kefir.

You have to put them in some kind of milk--cow's milk, goat's milk, coconut milk, any kind of milk--for them to live and grow.

When they are healthy, they will grow larger and make babies--small grains will come off of them. Once the small grains are a good size, you give them away to others so they can make their own delicious kefir also.

If you keep all the grains, you have to use a lot more milk or the small amount of milk you use will quickly become a sour kefir. You have to learn the right amount of grains for the few cups of kefir you want to make each day or 2.

I drank kefir AND took probiotics, and ate a carb-free diet daily.

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The difference with this lady who charges $15 and $5 shipping is her grains are not packed in dry milk, they are good from the start. My first batch was drinkable, but a little yeasty. The second batch on was really great.

Also, be aware that they will not grow if you make coconut kefir, it has to be milk from a mammal. That's okay if you have all the grains you want .... but they will multiply if you're using an animal's milk.

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i always wanted to try kefir, but it sounds so complicated to make.

i just bought some organic So Delicious Coconut Keifer that only has 3 grams of sugar per serving.

oh no... maybe that was a mistake [Frown]

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Not complicated. Just pour milk over grains and let sit for a day. Strain the grains out, do over for next batch.

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i just google several sites.

some are a little confusing, but it doesnt seem that bad. one person has a starter kit, but not sure what the difference is between the two.


here is what i found:

http://www.virgincoconutoil.co.uk/kefir_a_natural_probiotic.htm

http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=975361

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/Makekefir.html

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If it's not kefir grains, a starter kit does not make kefir indefinitely. I had a starter kit and it was good, but it was not real kefir and did not have all the strains of bacteria, yeast, etc. that kefir has.

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check out the link in my signature for more info on fermenting various probiotics.

I just had some yogurt tonight made from a commercial probiotic (reuteri something or another). I sometimes open up probiotic capsules and add them to whatever other starter I use when I make yogurt.

Kefir is easier than yogurt because you do'nt have to keep it warm.

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Thank you, everyone.

six - I believe water kefir grains are similar to milk grains - they multiply and you evetually and quickly will have to give it away. If I am not mistaken, they actually grow faster than the milk kefir grains.

I am thinking water kefir over milk but I will try both to see how they are working out.

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Let me know what you find out wtl ... and how it tastes.

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thank you for all the good information!

Maria, what a great bunch of links. Wow, I have alot of great stuff to read.

I always wanted to know about the type of sourkraut everyone is always talking about.

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