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I had major burning, stinging, pain in my feet, chins a month ago. My doc gave me bactrum. The pain has subsided in my feet, about 60 percent. But, now, I have major ear ringing (as opposed to just some ear ringing before last week), and it is like I hear a train in my ears, tons of pressure, and echo sounds, more profound than before. I also had VIT C IV last week (I do that 1 time a month), and I was taking chlorela for 1 week . I am waiting on my doc to call me today, but I was thinking out that onion layer concept my llmd told me about, when you kill something, another infection flourishes. So, could that be it? What about the toxins in my brain from the vit C and chlorela ? right now, I am not on any abx for lyme, but my llmd is probably going to put me back on bicillin, which helped so much. but what do you guys think?
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Jenin writes:
I had major burning, stinging, pain in my feet, chins a month ago. My doc gave me bactrum. The pain has subsided in my feet, about 60 percent.
But, now, I have major ear ringing (as opposed to just some ear ringing before last week), and it is like I hear a train in my ears, tons of pressure, and echo sounds, more profound than before.
I also had VIT C IV last week (I do that 1 time a month), and I was taking chlorela for 1 week .
I am waiting on my doc to call me today, but I was thinking out that onion layer concept my llmd told me about, when you kill something, another infection flourishes.
So, could that be it? What about the toxins in my brain from the vit C and chlorela ? right now,
I am not on any abx for lyme, but my llmd is probably going to put me back on bicillin, which helped so much. but what do you guys think?
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What dosage of Bactrum are you taking? If you are taking a toxic dosage this can be a side effect. I would ask your doc if you can go to every other day. If you are taking it every day.
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Ringing in the ears has nothing to do with killing Bart, or any other co-infection. It's just a common side effect of taking abx. It will probably tone down after a couple of months or more, but could take a lot longer to subside.
Some drugs are worse in this regard for some people. So maybe Bactrim is always going to cause you more ringing than other drugs will. The ringing can also be related to yeast.
The echo effect that you have is probably what is called a patulous eustachian tube. It is usually caused by weight loss, but there can be other reasons for it. See description below:
quote:PATULOUS EUSTACHIAN TUBE
Patulous eustachian tubes often present a frustrating problem for patients and clinicians.The incidence is reported to be between 0.3-6.6% of the general population.
Patients with patulous eustachian tubes complain of aural fullness, humming tinnitus, and autophony. They also may hear their own breath sounds, which is known as tympanophonia. The sound is synchronous with nasal respiration and resolves when the patient is supine or when upper respiratory tract inflammation occurs. The sounds may be aggravated by mastication.
Symptoms are usually absent when the patient is supine or relieved when the patient bends forward with the head between the knees. For this reason, patients should not be examined in a supine position. Physical examination may reveal a tympanic membrane that moves during forced breathing through one nostril, and an amorphic sound may be heard using a diagnostic tube in the patient's ear.
The eustachian tube is usually closed, and closure is maintained by the elasticity of its cartilage, mucosal lining, surrounding muscles and fat. Alteration of any of these anatomic components may cause patulous eustachian tubes.
Conditions associated with patulous eustachian tubes include: radiation therapy, hormonal therapy, pregnancy, nasal decongestants, fatigue, stress, and weight loss.
Patulous eustachian tubes in the most severe form may be patent at all times, whereas a less severe form has been reported, where the tube is anatomically closed at rest, but may open easily during exercises or in association with a decrease in peritubal extracellular fluid.
Many patients can be treated with simple reassurance after a thorough history and physical examination. Treatment or removal of underlying factors may reverse the problem. Such as weight gain by patients who have lost weight.
Many medical regimens have been described including agents which produce intraluminal and extraluminal swelling, including: insufflation of boric acid and salicylate powder as described by Bezold, application of nitric acid and phenol, oral administration of saturated solution of potassium iodide (10 drops in juice TID), premarin nasal spray (25 mg in 30 cc NS).
New medications are currently under investigation including a herbal combination being evaluated in Japan, and a medication reported Dr. DiBartolomeo of Santa Barbara, California that is composed of chlorobutanol, benzyl alcohol, diluted hydrochloric acid, and propylene glycol. In the initial report, complete elimination of symptoms was reported by 8 of 10 patients. This formulation was derived from chlorinated pool water based on the observation that several patients had eustachian tube congestion proportional to the frequency of time they spent in a public pool. In letter to the editor in American Journal of Otology, Dr. DiBartolomeo indicated that the medication was held up with the FDA.
In patients who do not improve with medical therapy and who want further treatment, several surgical interventions have been used including electrocauterization of the eustachian tube orifice, peritubal injection with gelfoam, paraffin, avitene, or teflon paste, transposition of the tensor veli palatini muscle medial to the pterygoid hamulus, myringotomy with ventilation tube placement, and insertion of an indwelling catheter and subsequent ventilation tube placement. Catheter placement is through either an anterior tympanomeatal flap or through a myringotomy.
The close anatomic relationship of the eustachian tube and the carotid artery should be noted by clinicians who plan inject materials into the eustachian tube orifice, as injection of telfon paste into the carotid artery has been reported.
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While it is true that many of the abx used to treat Lyme and co-infections can cause ringing of the ears as a side effect, with my daughter the opposite was true.
One of her first symptoms prior to starting any treatment was the ear ringing that was so bad that it prevented her from sleeping at night.
Once she started Lyme treatment--first on doxy, then mino and zith--her ear ringing stopped completely.
I was very aware of the ototoxicity side effects so was very hesitant to use them on her because of her already having ringing ears; however,for her, the meds made the ringing stop--so whether that was from the abx killing the Lyme or attacking one of the co-infections, I don't know, but it did work.
So, just be aware of the side effects, check with your LLMD, and hopefully treating the Lyme will help abate your ear symptoms.
Good luck!
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- micul,
Thanks for that info. on the patulous eustachian tube.
jenin98 ,
please also check out the Tinnitus thread above as if you have tinnitus, there are some self-care measures that are important to consider regarding things to decrease inflammation - and attention to the decibel level you are around as abx lower the dB level at which damage can occur.
There are also some physical body work treatments described that might help such as cranial-sacral, yoga, etc.
in addition to possible eustachian tube considerations, there are also other things that can cause an echo, such as SCD, outlined at the tinnitus link. -
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As long as you realize these toxic effects can be permanent. I have a friend that was permanently damaged by this type of drug.
My doctor is conservative and won't let me take toxic amounts of drugs. He's not an LLMD but he is a good doctor. He also told me that 80% of people that take long term Flagyl will have permanent nueropathy. He's very careful with this medicine.
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