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I have a tooth that I had a root canal done on years ago, which has been "behaving badly" ever since. My DDS has said that there is definately ongoing infection in the remaining root, and that the only sure way to eliminate it is to pull the tooth. Yippie.
Two questions: If there is ongoing root infection in this tooth, could it be contributing to my level of illness? I am so sick inside.
Also, if it is removed how much caution needs to be taken, as far as releasing lots of toxic ick into my system when it is removed?
I am so not looking forward to this; but I know there are worse things. Oh, one more question: when I get the bridge, should I stay away from any metal in the bridge? Thanks all.
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hi yes it could be contributing to the level of your illness...think how your body has to deal with yet another infection.
i had 4 root canals, and all got infection when i got sick..just didn't have the immune system to fight it. so they were extracted. i ended up with a Valplast partial...no metal...its a flexible removable no-mental partial. but i think it helped my health...one less immune stress on my body (and that was 4 teeth with i had tested and did have high backterial infection levels.
if you go to a biological dentist, they should do it in a way in which that won't release toxic ick into your system.
have you googled "weston price" with "root canals"?
personally, i think i benefited.
not sure if thats any help...
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Thank you so much for your answer. I will do a little more research. Again, thanks.
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I agree that an ongoing infection in a tooth can contribute substantially to your ongoing health problems.
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The answer seems obvious but I guess I just didn't want it to be so. Thank you all.
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I think you will feel better and definitely benefit from having the tooth removed. Don't be scared!
I had a root canal that went bad when I was 22. The doctors told me that the worst thing would be if I had to have the tooth removed. They gave me an apicoectomy - meaning that they drilled into the side of my jawbone to get to the root of the tooth and clean the infection from the bottom.
What a HUGE waste of money and pain. The infection came back and my health went down the toilet.
As a poor grad student, I couldn't afford to do anything further. Finally, when I was 25, I had the tooth removed. My health improved drastically, and I felt much better!
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I think you will feel better and definitely benefit from having the tooth removed. Don't be scared!
I had a root canal that went bad when I was 22. The doctors told me that the worst thing would be if I had to have the tooth removed. They gave me an apicoectomy - meaning that they drilled into the side of my jawbone to get to the root of the tooth and clean the infection from the bottom.
What a HUGE waste of money and pain. The infection came back and my health went down the toilet.
As a poor grad student, I couldn't afford to do anything further. Finally, when I was 25, I had the tooth removed. My health improved drastically, and I felt much better!
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My biological dentist says that root canals are NOT recommended options for people with Lyme Diseast.
I lost a tooth last year and I'm living very happily with my titanium implant and crown.
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My LLMD told me lyme likes to attack the roots of the teeth. I always have trouble with root canals and have them removed, I have one more root canal to take out. I removed all the silver from my mouth and feel much better. Earlier this year, I had two teeth removed because of lyme causing so much pain and infection. One of the teeth was a root canal. I hope you feel better.
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I had 3 RC removed, all were infected. I say NO to RC,not a good combo with Lyme. My husband had a RC removed, it didn't bother him but I insisted he remove it. The biological dentist cut it open, Man it stunk, like sh*t...he got a partial. Implants aren't good either. Do your research....Good Luck
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Oh, thank you all for your additional comments! I feel better knowing others have gone before me! I really appreciate the input.
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RC is usually bad. Mine were also infected. One with pain (sort of dull pain), the other painless. I pulled them off, and cleaned the area. If not, infection may come back.
I still have two RC in my mouth, one I lost to lyme. It caused me problem recently, I used ozone to control the infection (ozone injections). If the tooth was behind, I was going to pull it. It is in front, so I didn't. So far so good, but I would rather pull it off...
My doctor doesn't recommend titanium implants nor any implants because they could also harbor infections. Plus titanium is not 'friendly' in energetic tests, even if many dentists insist it is harmless.
It's got the same problem of root canals. Small spaces may harbor infection in the jawbone.
Dentists also insisted amalgams were safer before.
They also insisted root canals are of no harm. Now they push us to use titanium implants...
I stayed with partials. They say is no good!! The same dentists that said 'there's no infection in your root canal'!!! Well...
They were mistaken. The roots were fully infected. The dentist only saw that after pulling it off. If I trusted their X-rays, they would never have believed I had infection there.
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remove it. probably has vertical fracture down root surface and will never heal.these can be microscopic and not be seen even with a microscope did not read any of the other posts adjust the height of the tooth to remove biting force.
premeditate with clidamycin 150 tid 3 days before and 5 days after. yes it can stress the body and lower immune system to worsen lyme and co's. docdave
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there is not much worse to hold onto inside the body than a dead tooth! I had many root canals, one literally causing the next one. Infection spreads through the jaw, unless stopped.
Once I got my root canals out and infected jawbone surgically removed, I got well from Lyme. Don't wait, and don't listen to any dentist who still hasn't learned that root canals as they are done today make them a lot of money, but eventually kill the patient or keep them chronically ill. Many breast cancers start there.
Take care.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. All the input is so appreciated. I really had no idea. And Stymie, I will definately take the med. advice to my LLMD prior to removal.
God bless you all, and thanks again. Maybe, just maybe, this will be my turning point!
P.S. Gigi, how does one know if they have infection in the jaw; does it have to cause pain?
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stymie,
Why Clindamycin? Does that target most tooth infections?
My brother has had terrible jaw pain and headaches since having his wisdom teeth removed over a year ago, and the only thing that makes it better is Amoxicillin or Keflex.
The headaches go away, jaw gets better. So we've concluded he's got some kind of nasty infection in there.
But I've been wondering if we should be giving him a different or better antibiotic.
Yes, WE are giving him the antibiotics, since the doctors say it is either TMJ, or stress from teeth grinding.
And is there anything else he can be taking to take care of a post-surgery mouth infection?
Sorry if off-topic.
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I read these posts with interest. I had a RC about 6 years ago (a few days before I found out I was pregnant--and I ended up miscarrying).
The dentist told me I would have no more pain in that tooth. I have had pains in that tooth ever since then and I'm wondering if I shouldn't have it looked at again.
I haven't been to a dentist for several years because I have no insurance, and I'm afraid to go again.
But I know I need to get this thing checked out. I hope I don't need it pulled because it's one of my front teeth.
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Hi Starfall, Try not to be afraid of going; I think I would be more afraid of NOT going. At least if you go, you will know what (if anything) needs to be done. You will have a plan, and you can take action.
I know, probably easy for me to say.
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snail, cavitations are not necessarily painful.
Here is an assortment of wisdom teeth, rc, situations. Dr. H. did my work.
Youtharian Blog/Podcast Network � Blog Archive � Dental Health ...26 Jan 2009 ... I asked Dr. Hussar what percentage of wisdom tooth removals had this type of cavitation. ... in order to assure that patients having infected teeth removed will ... Of course, what a great site and informative posts, ... www.youtharian.com/.../dental-health-root-canals-cancer/ - Cached - Similar ExtractionsThis is the case in the decision to remove impacted wisdom teeth, teeth ... In some instances, an infected tooth can even bring a patient close to death by .... images from doctorspiller.com into their own websites and claim them as ... www.doctorspiller.com/extractions.htm - Cached - Similar DENTAL AMALGAM MERCURY SYNDROMEMercury, root-canaled teeth, and cavitations are common causes of chronic conditions ... The majority(over 50%) of wisdom tooth extraction sites have cavitations- .... Dr.Christopher Hussar - Trigeminal Neuralgia,Atypical Facial Neuralgia: the ... The Kinder, Gentler Approach to Infected Root Canals and Cavitations ... www.flcv.com/damspr11.html - Cached - Similar Patient's Guide to Wisdom Teeth10 Apr 2003 ... Wisdom teeth appear as the last tooth in the mouth and begin to erupt around the age of 16 years. ... much greater potential for becoming infected. .... tooth (most commonly the tooth in front of the wisdom tooth site), ... www.cincinnati-oralsurgery.com/wisdom.htm - Cached - Similar Cancer-Free Newsletter, January 24th, 200924 Jan 2009 ... I've read the information at their web site where their products are sold. .... I asked Dr. Hussar what percentage of wisdom tooth removals had this ... in order to assure that patients having infected teeth removed will ... www.beating-cancer-gently.com/126nl.html - Cached - Similar
If you have a problem in the mouth, it won't go away by ignoring it. Nothing in your body seems to affect your overall health as teeth. Sadly, many dentists missed the boat the first time they installed a mercury filling in a patient's mouth.
Take care.
If you are unable to pull up the above links, google "infected wisdom teeth sites hussar" and you will get many hits and easily be able to get a mix of info.
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Thank you for all the effort you put into this for me, GiGi. Sadly, I also have a mouth full of amalgams as well.
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clindamycin targets receptors on jaw bone for some reason. it is the best abx for aerobic infections of the\ mouth and teeth. works fairly well on anaerobes but they are extremely difficult to kill in the facial area.
docdave
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Saw the oral surgeon; cost is $3,000. to remove my tooth. (This price is with sedation, yeah, thinkin' I might skip that part to save $$)
I really am concerned about "kicking up" the infection in this tooth, and overloading my blood stream. Is there any advice, or special instructions for removal (besides the abx recommended by Stymie) that I should run by the surgeon? Thank you all so much.
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Special instructions how about "why are you ripping me off"?
I've got three lower molars to remove. Two on the left and 1 on the right. The oral surgeon is removing two on the left first so I can still chew with my right.
Here is a breakdown on the amount they are charging for removing two teeth.
Oral surgery office visit $95.00 Surgical Extraction $240.00 x2 = $480.00 Graft-ridge-preservation $500.00 x 2 = $1000 Anesthesia $345.00
Total $1920.00
I told him way to high and told him I will pay $1600.00 only. They called me back a day later and accepted.
$3000.00 for the removal of one tooth seems high.
You probably need to negotiate and find out why they are charging this exuberant price.
Karl A
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I am having an extraction of a tooth [molar] Monday. He was trained by Hal Huggins. He uses ozone and vit c IV. At most it will cost $1000. I am driving 4 hrs to get to him.
It abcessed recently and has hurt mildly for a year. I feel I need to do anything to help my poor, struggling immune system.
Hope you get relief. Aliyah
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Karl, thank you. Since Friday I have been trying to get an idea of what the cost of this procedure "should" be. You are right, he's charging alot. I plan to call them Mon. and see what's what.
Aliyah, good for you. We are in the same boat. I really, really hope this will be your turning point! God bless you.
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