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frank789
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I have recently been diagnosed with lyme and I was wondering if there are any good resources out there concerning a proper lyme diet?
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Your diet needs to coordinate with whatever therapy you are doing, thus there is no one correct lyme diet.

For example, those who take high dose abx need to minimize simple sugars so as to avoid yeast. Those on the MP need to minimize vitamin D intake.

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The best thing, typically, is to avoid all simple carbs (white food) and junk food. Sugar substitutes are bad except Stevia (Sold as Truvia)

Lean meats, lots of veggies and fruit (unless you are high in yeast you will need to limit or even abstain from some high sugar fruits). Whole grains only in moderation.

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quote:
Originally posted by mojo:
The best thing, typically, is to avoid all simple carbs (white food) and junk food. Sugar substitutes are bad except Stevia (Sold as Truvia)

Lean meats, lots of veggies and fruit (unless you are high in yeast you will need to limit or even abstain from some high sugar fruits). Whole grains only in moderation. [/QB]

Sounds like a plan!

Review this list of OK and not OK foods. You will not have to follow this to the T unless you get yeast.

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

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Thanks everyone.

After looking at the Five Steps to Candida Elimination, why are dairy products and red meat a problem? Those are two of my favorites...

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These may still work for you. First, notice how you feel after consuming dairy (milk, cheese). Do you have phlegm in your thought (uh, I mean THROAT) or do your sinuses get stuffy? If so, you may have a sensitivity to it and that will hamper your healing.

If you do consume dairy, try to get it without the bovine growth hormone, rBGH.

As for meat, after eating it, do you feel more tired or does your stomach hurt? If not, you may be fine with it, as a balanced part of your diet. I do far better now and feel better energy with beef. Lamb, too. In fact, those who are ill require more protein.


I'm not sure why that particular author suggests avoiding dairy or red meat but here are a few thoughts:

First, both can cause inflammation in the body.

DAIRY has lactose which is a sugar and that can feed candida.

Dairy products can cause phlegm and that creates an environment where microbes can more easily grow.

Some do okay with sugar free yogurt.

Many people are also sensitive or have varying degrees of allergy symptoms from dairy and that stresses the immune system.
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As for RED MEAT, it could be the hormones found in meat - and antibiotics, too.

For those with liver stress (which most lyme patients have) red meat stresses the liver as it takes more work to digest and metabolize.

There were times when I could not eat any red meat as it just tore up my stomach. Now, meat from grass-fed cattle is easier for me - and I enjoy the energy from it. I also get meat without added hormones or chemicals added. I get it as stew meat, so I cook it with lots of garlic and onions and the proportion of vegetables is very high to the amount of meat but I still get good flavor. Garden herbs and spices help improve digestion and decrease inflammation.

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About WHEAT: most patients do far better avoiding gluten (found in wheat, barley and rye - with some having trouble with oats, too). Many LLMDs will advise patients to be on a gluten-free diet.

While it can take some adjustment, this really is a better diet for everyone as gluten is becoming well-known for not just gut trouble but for trouble thinking, etc. Gluten, too, causes inflammation.

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Here's a recent thread with clarification and some suggestions:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/84213?

Topic: Inflammation diet - any tips
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[ 10-26-2009, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

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Keebler,

Phlegm in your thought? Hee-Hee! My hubby and I both think we have phlegm in our thoughts. (I'm sure you meant throat)

Luvs

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As for the right diet, it is very personal.

Food that is necessity for one person can be poison to another.

There are several things to investigate.

1-Eating right for your bloodtype

2-Metabolic typing (eating for your metabolic type)

3-Foods you have become sensitive to which are creating inflammation in your gut and throughout your body. HINT....You will normally develop sensitivities to foods you eat regularly. Study the benefits of a rotational diet.

4-Certain foods must be avoided with certain meds.

It can get complicated but I can tell you firsthand that finding and eating the right diet brought me out of the nightmare illness.

Think in terms of healing at the cellular level. In order to heal each cell of your body, you must feed your body the right fuel. Right for you.

Some common bad foods, bad for everyone, are as listed above. White sugar, white flour, processed foods loaded with preservatives, flavor enhancors, dyes.

Good rule of thumb is to only eat real food (food that grew that way). Eat organic when reasonable. In addition to no pesticides to further compromise your immune system, organic food has more nutritional value. Eating locally grown foods have less pesticides than commercially and have not been irradiated. Local foods are fresher which again has more nutritional value. Old food, less nutrition.

Avoid meat with hormones, antibiotics to make the meat fatter for market. Makes you fatter too,not to mention hard on the immune system.

You will need a good doctor trained in nutrition to test and find food sensitivities like celiac disease, dairy etc.

Cutting out these foods will help you feel better and help your body heal because you will stop inflammation being caused by foods bad for you.

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Luvs,

Ah . . . so THAT's my problem. Phlegm in my thought. So glad to finally get that one figured out ! And I've not even had dairy in months (as it makes my lungs more susceptible to coughing).
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Another thought that I usually stress at food posts: ENJOY your food. Food is fabulous and flavorful - if done right. Do your food right and it will do you right, so to speak. Even with limitations, there are still so many choices once you get to know herbs and spices.
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hhmmm!!! For real about enjoying your food. It took time initially for me to discover good recipes using only the foods I could eat, but now, my family wants all my recipes.

And as I have healed, I am able to eat more stuff than before.

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If you buy STEVIA, be sure it is pure stevia, or at least not with undesirable ingredients added. Some things added might be okay, others are not. In my view, the umbrella term "natural flavors" can be a wide mask.

Trader Joe's has a good STEVIA (nothing added) in a little container.

Sweet Leaf is also a good brand, transparent with it's safe composition.

However, TRUVIA does not equal STEVIA.

This new brand, TRUVIA is NOT pure stevia. It has other stuff added and it's not really clear on what that is. The Erythritol, (while a sugar alcohol that is low on the glycemic index) can cause stomach upset and loose bowels, too.

As for "natural ingredients" steer clear of that term. "Natural Ingredients" can contain gluten or MSG, or even aspartame, which you really want to avoid. Even if just in trace amounts, many things can fall under "natural flavors" that are not good for us and can trigger serious symptoms.

"Natural flavors" are also often added to stretch a product, cut costs and rip off the consumer.

I think products should be very clear on ingredients. This is not and it even appears to be intentionally vague and deceptive.

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http://www.truvia.com/about/ingredients/default.aspx

TRUVIA - ingredients

Stevia, Erythritol, and natural flavors.

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http://www.truvia.com/about/qa/default.aspx#

Q & A page:

What are the natural flavors in Truvia natural sweetener?

Natural flavors are used to bring out the best of Truvia�'s natural sweetener, like pepper or salt or any other spice that would be used to heighten the taste of food.

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What is Erythritol ?

Erythritol is an all-natural, non-caloric sweetener, used as an ingredient that provides bulk for the tabletop form of Truvia� rebiana.

Bulking agents are additives that increase the bulk and contribute to the texture of a food. Erythritol has been part of the human diet for thousands of years as it is present in fruits such as pears, melons and grapes, as well as foods such as mushrooms and fermentation-derived foods such as wine, soy sauce and cheese.

It is added to foods and beverages to provide sweetness, as well as to enhance taste and texture.
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As an aside, I morned the loss of my diet soda. I found an all natural soda, zero calories and no artificial sweeteners. It is sweetened with Stevia.

It is called "Zevia" and it is sold at Lassen's, Whole Foods, Alberstsons. Lots of flavors (stay away from the lemon lime, ick.)

But it's good! The root beer and cherry are my favorites. Just thought I'd pass it along.

Oh and Coke and Pepsi are currently working on their "Stevia formulas". Should be out in the next year or so.

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