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StephenC
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What were your levels and what kind of Rife machine did you use?

I've had an extremely high IGG for HHV6 that lowered with Valcyte treatment and an extremely high IGG/IGM with EBV that also lowered with Valcyte treatment. I then started feeling a lot better! Less fatigue and brain fog, but then I made the very horrible mistake of drinking alcohol and my levels shot back up (literally overnight) and I lost 6 months of progress with the drug. I kept taking the Valcyte for a few more months and my levels only got higher.

I've stopped taking the drug since last June by recomendation from my doctor and I was planning on started a new six month run (I've been alcohol free since December 2008) but my new insurance, at the moment at least, isn't covering it and it's $2,000 / month!!

So, now I'm turning to other routes. There has to be another treatment out there, the pharmacuetical companies can't hold the only one, I suspect. So, I'm looking into Rife. I have taken high doses of OLE & MMS recently and am waiting to see if my numbers have dropped from that. I doubt it though - we'll see.

Stephen

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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You might search for past posts by Dan as he knows a lot about rife. You can find him on past rife threads or search his web name: D Bergy

Search link for past threads:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search/search_forum/1

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I've posted numerous links as all of these folks should know something about HHV-6 and EBV. You might search their works or even contact the authors.

Allicin may be stronger than OLE, or good to add or alternate. You might also consider andrographis.

Andrographis has a chapter in Buhner's book, "Healing Lyme" and you can read more about it here:

www.altcancer.com/andcan.htm

Andrographis

See Section 5 on viruses.

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Hey Steve have a look at Monolaurium it's Lauric Acid. I don't know much about it just came across it on a thread here the other day but it sounds like it could help.

Oh by the way I forgot to say Happy Birthday!

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Hi. I was asking this exact question in a couple recent threads. Sadly the threads were originally abut something else.

I did not get much information that is specific though.

But two people did respond. I will go look for the links.

I am trying to find out the same thing and I had the flu too and viral issues are "buging" me. I am on valtrex. It helps a little. I also take at least 3 grams of LLysine and for sure notice a difference.

I tried to run a couple rife frequencies and I felt the frequencies running down my nerves. I only did it once because I need to learn more about how it works and if I will herx like when you do other treatments with Rife.

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Here is one of the links. Some new info has been added and you may find this helpful to read through.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/87695?#000017

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StephenC
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quote:
Originally posted by ericaf:
Hey Steve have a look at Monolaurium it's Lauric Acid. I don't know much about it just came across it on a thread here the other day but it sounds like it could help.

Oh by the way I forgot to say Happy Birthday!

Thanks, I'll look into that. And thanks! [Big Grin]

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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quote:
Originally posted by Keebler:
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You might search for past posts by Dan as he knows a lot about rife. You can find him on past rife threads or search his web name: D Bergy

Wow that's a lot of info, thank you very much for putting that together! I do own the book Healing Lyme and it has been a couple years since I've read it. Back then I didn't even know I had viruses that were dragging me down!

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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quote:
Originally posted by springshowers:
Hi. I was asking this exact question in a couple recent threads. Sadly the threads were originally abut something else.

I did not get much information that is specific though.

But two people did respond. I will go look for the links.

I am trying to find out the same thing and I had the flu too and viral issues are "buging" me. I am on valtrex. It helps a little. I also take at least 3 grams of LLysine and for sure notice a difference.

I tried to run a couple rife frequencies and I felt the frequencies running down my nerves. I only did it once because I need to learn more about how it works and if I will herx like when you do other treatments with Rife.

Thanks, I read through this [Smile]

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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Viruses in general seem to be real susceptible to frequency treatments. Of course, that statement is limited to what few viruses I have experimented with such as Colds and Flu.

I do remember others having good luck treating some strains of Herpes viruses but I do not remember which specific ones.

I also remember a couple of people saying MMS cleared them up.

I think the odds are good that you could reduce the virus, either using the standard frequencies or possibly the DNA frequencies, if they are available for this strain. I do not know if total elimination is possible.

If you decide to get a frequency machine, you may want to get one that can run in the Mhz range. I am finding the DNA frequencies and even some of the regular frequencies work better in this range.

Dan

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StephenC
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Dan,

I don't know anything about Rife machines other than a few Rife video documentaries I've seen. Where would you suggest I start looking for and reading up on machines?

Stephen

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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quote:
Originally posted by ericaf:
Hey Steve have a look at Monolaurium it's Lauric Acid. I don't know much about it just came across it on a thread here the other day but it sounds like it could help.

Oh by the way I forgot to say Happy Birthday!

Interesting!!

"Lauric Acid/Monolaurin

Lauric acid was first discovered as the main antiviral and antibacterial substance in human breast milk. It is a medium chain, saturated fatty acid that is also found in coconut products. Monolaurin is the glycerol ester of lauric acid and is more biologically active than lauric acid. Monolaurin has been shown to be active against influenza virus, pneumovirus, paramyxovirus (Newcastle), morbillivirus (rubeola), coronavirus (avian infectious, bronchitis virus), herpes simplex I & II, CMV, EBV, and HIV. Monolaurin disrupts the lipid bilayer of the virus preventing attachment to susceptible host cells. It binds to the lipid-protein envelope of the virus and inactivates the virus. Monolaurin inhibits the replication of viruses by interrupting the binding of virus to host cells and prevents uncoating of viruses necessary for replication and infection. Monolaurin can remove all measurable infectivity by directly disintegrating the viral envelope. Monolaurin binding to the viral envelope makes a virus more susceptible to host defenses.

Monolaurin is effective against yeast and fungi, staphylococcus aureus and streptococcus agalactiae, chlamydia trachomatis, candida albicans, giardia lamblia, ringworm, H. pylori and gonorrhea. Monolaurin is non-toxic and listed in GRAS (Generally Recognized as Safe) as a food emulsifier. A therapeutic dose of monolaurin is generally 1800 mg to 2400 mg per day."

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Lingering chronic symptoms: Fatigue, Derealization, Brain fog. Monthly fever with flu-like symptoms that last for weeks.
Lyme WB Bands Positive: 31, 41, 58, 66
HHV6, EBV, CMV, & Mycoplasma IGG positive.
Chronically Low CD4 count.

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I use rife but haven't used it for HHV-6. I have high IgG for HHV-6 too. I use muscle testing for my direction with rife and HHV-6 has never come up.

I wanted to post to mention that there are some studies that indicate that transfer factor may be very useful for HHV-6.

You can search google for the studies as they are readily available.

This is just a excerpt. The whole article is pretty intresting.
http://tinyurl.com/ybes9g5

Helping the Body Contain Viruses

New research suggests that several conditions, including CFIDS and Multiple Sclerosis (MS), are related to infections with HHV-6, one of the eight herpes viruses. Active HHV-6 infections appear capable of suppressing the immune system, which simply perpetuates the cycle of illness.

Other researchers speculate that HHV-6 might thicken the blood, perhaps causing `brain fog' and at least some of the pain associated with CFIDS and related conditions.

Aside from expensive, and potentially toxic, pharmaceutical antiviral drugs, nothing seems to hold more promise for helping the body contain HHV-6 and other viruses than transfer factors.

Terry
I'm not a doctor

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The best place to find out more about Rife Machines would be the Rife Forum, since most everyone there uses them.

Here are some links to various builders and devices.

http://www.gb4000.org/gb4000_products.html

http://www.rifelabs.com/index2.html

http://coilmachines4less.googlepages.com/coilmachines4less

http://www.resonantlight.com/

This device is probably more for people who have a few years of experience, but I am considering getting it.

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/em8ce.htm

There is one low cost EMEM machine being built by an individual at or near cost. If you want to contact him, just PM myself or most any other Rife machine user.

Dan

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what is the URL to the Rife Forum anyone know?
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I did not use rife to treat HHV-6. I used valcyte. And it worked.

For more info: www.hhv-6foundation.org.

Best, Timaca

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timaca,

When you say that the valcyte worked, do you mean that your symptoms improved, your viral titers came down, or both? Can you say more? I'd love to get rid of the darned viruses, but it seems to be very difficult to totally get rid of them (the herpes viruses, EBV, etc.)

And how long did you take the valcyte? I remember years ago, I took some for an acute flare up, but instantly got horrific nausea, and didn't continue on it.

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I felt better and my titers came down. My story can be found here:
http://hhv6foundation.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=antiviral&action=display&thread=39

I took valcyte for 9 months. You will need to sign in to read the posts.

I am now on oxymatrine for enterovirus, and making improvements with that. See this link for that journey:
http://hhv6foundation.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=antiviral&action=display&thread=200

Best, Timaca

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