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Wow, this is crazy! I wonder what they are and how you got them?
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look at lymephotos.com they are there too...blobs of Bb, i get them out all the time with my liver cleanses
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Oh yeah, forgot you posted those pics! Well, I'd say, keep doing what you're doing and get rid of as many as you can!!! At least you've found a way to get rid of them.
Passing parasites always freaked me out. Even though I passed probably 30+ 10-15 in. long worms and a 7 ft. + long tapeworm, I was always disconcerted when another came out.
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I can't believe the CDC couldn't figure out what this was. Have you thought of writing to a parasite specialist or researcher? Maybe even Dr. Alan McDonald would help you!!!
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I can not believe there isn't someone who can help you with this. You were just on the hospital and they couldn't even address this? That is frustrating.
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I think I would do a course of rid a worm. All
kinds of worms. I would also freeze them for when
you do find a lab who will find out what they are.
Heck we have to find out what is wrong with us and
then we have to treat it too. We are in sad shape.
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Do they actually swim around? If you put then in a fish tank can you train them like "sea monkeys"?
The CDC said they were not living organisms right?
Have you tried taking them to a bio lab at some university if you don't believe the CDC?
What would convince you that they are NOT living organisms? Anything?
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Maybe IgeneX or MDL would take a look at this? Some pathologist must know something!
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James,
Not sure why the Sarcasm !
I have always said they arn't moving or alive.
Under a microscope, the legs are double stranded sausage link looking and identical.
They are something ! I get nauseated to the point where I am gagging before I get them out.
If they were just blobs, I would say they are some kind of fluke, but they have flagella guy !
If a Dr. told you that you had FM or CFS, would you think you didn't have Lyme ? You know these are symptoms of Lyme.
I'm just saying many have had these come out of them who have Lyme, so there is a correlation, or so it would appear.
CDC report said neg. for Ova and Parasite, but didn't go further to say what they were.
So long as I am symptomatic and they keep coming out of me, I will report this finding here.
Sorry if you don't like it, but I think the others appreciate it.
Again, they are not alive and I never said they were, but I think they probably were at some point before they came out of me as they are all different sizes in maturation.
Gary
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So send them to the lab that northstar posted about recently. Will cost you a hundred bucks for an ID.
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I keep wondering if it could be a cluster of about 20 parasites, and the stuff in the middle is just mucus or tissue. I believe if they were true flagella, they would be microscopic.
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Good point, Hoos. My parasites were always caused a lot of mucus. And, Twister, they were always dead when they were expelled (thankfully).
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Twister,
I don't think that anyone here that has reported passing parasites/worms etc. has ever seen them LIVING. They have reported that they are dead when released....so don't know why the other poster is challenging you....
I believe Six goofy's tape worm segments were dead, not squiggling around as were the 'other' worms that she passed.
I suggest that you look to those who have constructive advice. Maybe what Lou has suggested or Wild Condor. Clongen would also probably take a look...if you need their contact info, let me know.
At least you feel better when these things are released..means something.
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posting at same time Six!
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Maybe rifing is killing them. Didn't you just start that?
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Just started for Bart only, as many of my symptoms that for me are disabling seem to be Bart related.
i.e., Gut Wrenching Anxiety, Head Pain/Pressure, Disequillibrium, Other CNS stuff.
I just Rifed again this morning for just one min. on 832 for Bart, and immediately following, my HR came down from 80's to high 50's-60's, when I stand, my HR is less than 100, which I havn't seen in forever with my POTS. Perhaps BART is responsible for POTS.
I was told that Rifing for Bart needs to be done twice per week, so I will try and stick with this even though I didn't feel up to it this morning.
Already getting the aches, fatigue, sore throat post rife that I always get. Perhaps I'll get a nice nap in today.
Gary
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My sarcasm was meant to be more playful than sarcastic. However I do not really share your conclusion that these "things" are parasites.
You have said that they have "nuclei" and "flagella" which means you have already reached the conclusion that they ARE parasites, and, at least, WERE living. You are convinced, and I do not think ANY scientific evidence to the contrary will sway you.
You are committed to your "belief".
I have followed your ordeal and have have much sympathy for you. But I also think you have made your situation much worse by many of the actions you've taken.
So now you *believe* that you are infected with parasites that are unknown to the medical world, and are untreatable. You scour your bowels with enemas to try to rid your body of these "whatevers". So where did you pick these critters up? How come biologists have never encountered them before?
I think it would be VERY BENEFICIAL for you to have this put to rest once and for all. Take them to biologists in various universities or hospitals and have them analyzed. FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE!!
IF it's some unknown parasite, then you go down in medical history and can probably name it. The GARY-twister-asite.
IF it's NOT, then you can stop wrecking your body by trying to rid yourself of something that isn't really there. Then you can concentrate on other aspects of your infections.
I really feel for you and want you to get better. But your anxiety and hysteria are not helping you.
Please don't feel insulted. Someone here needs to care enough to throw cold water on you. I guess that is me.
James
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James,
I do the enemas to rid the toxins like so many here do and for no other reason.
These "Whatever" they are, are now passing again as I Rife for Bartonella.
I am merely pointing this out in this post. I think many here agree that Parasites ARE a big part of this disease.
Just because the labs can't identify them, to me, doesn't mean they arn't something. I know that when I pass a load like I did yesterday, and again even today, I get lots of relief from many symptoms, so there is definitely a cause and effect, at least in my own case.
Your statement about how the labs can't identify it kind of reminds me of the many who test Negative for Lyme, but are loaded, I'm sure you can relate to that. I would question whether you believe those who test negative for Lyme actually don't have it ?
I'm not insulted and never would be from a posting site, but I certainly don't need any "cold water".
I am pretty sick as many here are, but I also feel like I have direction. I don't see where I have shown "Hysteria" either, even though this would be acceptable to me from anyone who does demonstrate this type of behavior. As Lyme can create so many types of emotional problems.
Thanks for your concern,
Gary
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Gary, I've thought of how you say you feel bad right before these pass. When I killed off parasites, I felt terrible. They are loaded with toxins, so as my body was trying to digest them as they were passing out, I felt horrible. Maybe some binders next time would help?
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Don't compare lyme and your mystery parasite. Lyme is a known spirochete, with known symptomology. Your thing is unknown--period.
The idea that there is a colony of dime size parasites living in your body that is unknown to science is *slightly* incredible.
So, all I'm saying is to get it known. FIND out what the heck it is. If it turns out that it's, say, mucous and NOT a parasite, then you won't need to worry about it anymore.
If it IS a parasite, then the Drs can get to ridding you of it.
But it is sounding like you want to believe it's a parasite. I don't think that is helpful.
Your posts over the last few months, including that your father wanted to commit you, conveyed to me hysteria. Go back and review them. If I misread them, I apologize.
Gary, I really hope you will get better. You have gone through so much pain.
I look forward to the time you will post how great you feel!
James
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How do you get rid of these? Salt and C does nothing for me.
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James,
Go to Lymephotos.com and you see the same Parasite there under Borrelia, even though it couldn't be Borrelia.
The only mystery is what it is. It is def. part of Lyme and Co. I have had many PM's and others saying the same exact things have come out of them.
I'm not alone with this one.
The other thing that you should know is that I Herx hard because I treat aggressively. Unfortunately, this technique creates the emotional Herxing for me.
My father believes I have Lyme, but when he sees me fine one day and crying like a 2 y.o. the next, he doesn't know what to make of it, even though I explain it to him.
I never meant to have this back and forth with you when I started this post, so I'll just leave it all at that.
I would ask that you be careful with your choice of words and nothing more.
We are all in this together.
If I'm falling apart and need help, be sure, I will ask for it.
Gary
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Definatly a parasite - I haven't seen these in over a year but I've passed these before. My sister has as well, and shes tries like heck not to look.
What would they be if not some sort of parasite.
They are not moving because they are dead. I passed mine while I was doing some sort of parasite cleanse.
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Can I use HUMAWORM? Will the 30 day supply work? Maybe I'll email them.
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Sorry James... but I think you are a bit out of line
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