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B4LYME
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I want to help my body handle the abx I'm taking. I know my best bet to heal is to support the immune system and keep my organs healthy.

Can you share what you thinks helps the most in supporting your liver and your body?

I do use milk thistle and lemon water. (I need to try the fresh lemons, I've been using the concentrate from my fridge. Oops.)

I appreciate how you all share your experiences.
This has been such a supportive community to be part of.

Thanks,

B4

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Detox and support can mean different things to different people.

I think the best detox is SWEATING (not too high of a heat in a FAR infrared sauna or warm bath with Epson Salts) . . . massage . . . gentle exercise with Tai Chi or Yoga . . . gently bouncing on a mini trampoline . . . .

Remember that aerobic exercise is not to undertaken when ill. However, other non-aerobic exercise is described in Burrascano's guidelines.

* SUPPORT is what helps the liver be able to detox as best it can, not pushed. It's best to be gentle with the liver. It can only do so much, so fast. Support can be protective but extra measures need to be considered at times.

* PROTECTION. And then there is the matter of liver protection. Support such as Milk Thistle and NAC can help the liver be protected from the toxins from lyme, die-off "herx" increases in toxins, and the chemicals in the medicines that can also harm a liver if certain measures are not taken.

Here is a set of links I've collected over time. There may be some helpful information here:

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008)

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This book, by an ILADS member LLMD, holds great information about treatments options and support measures:

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)

- by Kenneth B. Singleton , MD; James A. Duke. Ph.D. (Foreword)

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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From Townsend Letter:

http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfreeprint.asp?docid=1G1:130779774&ctrlInfo=Round20%3AMode20d%3ADocFree%3APrint&print=yes

Liver support: an evidence-based review & call for research.(Naturopathic Perspectives)

Discussed at length:

Bupleurum

Schizandra

Phosphatidyl choline,

Inositol, Milk

Thistle Seed (Silybum marianum),

Turmeric (Curcuma longa),

Dandelion root (Taraxacum officinale),

Artichoke (Cynara scolymus),

and Other Liver Supportive Botanicals such as Andrographis Paniculata and Picrorhiza Kurroa . . . .

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/understanding-the-liver.html

Understanding the Liver

Excerpt:

. . . Individual variations in our cytochrome P40 enzymes help to demystify why there are so many variations in how we respond to drugs and herbs. . . .


- Full chapter at link above.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/special-diets-for-illness.html

Special Diets for Illness

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/herbs-to-help-the-liver.html

Herbs to Help the Liver

Excerpt:
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The important thing to remember is that the liver is a hot (metabolically active) organ, and so tends to get congested and inflamed.

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Protection

Turmeric root, wheat sprouts, schisandra berries, amla fruit, beet root and milk thistle seed are among the major sources of protective anti-oxidants for the liver cells, as are fruits that contain flavonoids, especially citrus fruits.

These should be used to prevent development of inflammatory disease, or for damage protection as in the case of persons taking strong chemical drugs or undergoing chemotherapy.


Deficiency

The liver can become weakened and deficient. If this is not corrected, it can lead to liver atrophy and depletion of glycogen stores, even hepatitis. Signs include fatigue, low blood pressure, hypoglycemia, dry eyes, headache, heat symptoms and irritability . . . .


Heat and Inflammation

To remove excess liver inflammation with heat signs or toxins . . . .

Pain

If there is liver inflammation with signs of pain and tension, use herbs that calm the liver and move the blood . . . .

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- Full chapter at link above.

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www.itmonline.org/5organs/liver.htm


The 5 Organs Network of Chinese Medicine - Liver

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NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine)

If milk thistle is not on your plan, NAC might be considered:

This, from a protocol for Chlamydia Pneumonia (Cpn) which is a similar chronic stealth infection. This treatment protocol is also similar to that of chronic lyme.

This is what one of the protocol authors says about the power of NAC to help protet the liver:

http://www.cpnhelp.org/liverprotection

Dr. Stratton Cautions on Protecting the Liver

. . . "Surprisingly, the only anti-chlamydial agent that did not cause hepatitis in some patients was NAC. In fact, NAC is recognized as being protective.

See attached references.

My conclusion is that NAC should be the first agent in an anti-chlamydial regimen and should be a constant part of the therapy for this protective effect, not to mention it's effect against elementary bodies.

. . . more at link above.

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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art2168&zTYPE=2

The Liver: Detoxifying This Vital Organ Nourishes Overall Health and Vitality - By Sherrill Sellman, ND


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http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1890&zTYPE=2

Liver Protection: Laying the Foundation for Optimal Hepatic Health - By Kathy E. Acquistapace, DC, NHP, CNC


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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/87840

Topic: PORPHYRIA

This includes details on KPU, one type of porphyria that one LLMD says affects every lyme patient.

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METHYLATION ?

From TerryK, this is a very important consideration for some patients and the way their liver can metabolize:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77338


Topic: methylation panel?
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In addition to information Terry has posted there, she says:

There is a page on lymeinfo.net about methylation but it just covers the theory behind the simplified protocol and not really methylation cycle issues in general.

http://www.lymeinfo.net/methylationblock.html


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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

N-Acetyl-Cysteine - 10,537 medical abstracts

Alpha Lipoic Acid - 2,721 medical abstracts

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ALA

http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=Alpha_Lipoic_Acid


Search results for Alpha Lipoic Acid - 727 articles found

Includes some on R-Lipoic Acid, too.

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NAC

http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=N-Acetyl_Cysteine_NAC

Search results for N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) - 98 articles found
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B4LYME
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Wow! You've done a lot of research.

I should mention too that I am seeing an acupuncurist. I really do think our bodies are amazing.

I've found ou this year what happens when I don't support or take care of my body, now I'm on a mission to take better care of myself and help my body heal.

Thank you for sharing all of this. I'll try to digest it all and add one thing at a time.

B4

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I liked whey protein and coffee enemas. The coffee enemas stimulate the liver, the whey protein is a glutathione precursor.

Also, drink lots of water. FIR saunas are great.

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sixgoofykids has some great suggestions.

Whew! If I had known you are seeing an acupuncturist, I would not have showered you with so much reading material. But there is so much interesting stuff to learn. We could go on for months, learning about the liver.

Acupuncturists are all excellent at liver care. However, not all are familiar with lyme toxins but usually they can still determine what you body can handle. Hopefully, your L.Ac. is LL.

Remember, what you learn now will serve you for the rest of your life.

Good luck.
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I've been seeing the acupuncuturist about 2 months ago knowing my body needs to be balanced just like the rest of my life needed. She was trained in China as a medical doctor there and did some teaching.

She has been reading Dr. Zhang's book on lyme disease. SOmething I may consider following the abx treatment.

I know she doesn't like the antibiotics, but I think they are necessary for now.

It helps some with muscle relaxation and some pain and headaches. I do ask about helping to get the toxins cleared from my body.

It has helped with sleep some too.

I plan on being a life long learner, so this is just one more chapter in my life.

B4

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the bupleurum Keebler mentioned can be amazing. My favorite remedy is called Free n Easy wanderer by plum flower...you could ask your accupuncturist about it. Its main ingredient is bupleurum.

Coffee enema's are great as well

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