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Anyone else having/had stabbing head pains?
Mine are to the right and just below my occipital bone. I have had a headache for 7 days today along with these stabbing pains. Area is tender to touch too.
Had CT last week and was good. MRI 2 months ago and was good except my one small friend lesion.
I have a phone consult with LLMD tomorrow. Just wondering if this is a common condition.
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I am not sure, but I think the stabbing pains may possibly be bartonella. Just a guess though based on what I have seen with my husband's symptoms. They increased for a short time when he started Levaquin for bart.
I do think it is common.
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I get stabbing head pains too...altho lab positive for Lyme WB-IgM, i tested neg for co-parties. Last nite, i read a phamplet from CA Lyme Disease Assoc and it said stabbing pains are part of neuro-lyme.
I get these especially after adding lumbrokinase (blood thinner and possible cyst buster) and when i drank a very concentrated cilantro tea.
My CT and MRI's have always been normal...altho i had clear MS symptoms. Glad you are seeing multiple docs and hope you find the right answer for you!
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Kit, if you can afford it...i can tell you the only thing that helps me on occasion is to go get a deep tissue massage...with pressure pointing on the head, neck, and back. Anxiety--oh you are soo not alone...but its not in your head!
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I get very scary head spasms. Feels like someone squeezing an artery in my head. Sometimes happens with exertion like stair climbing. Negative MRI's also.
Also get disoriented when it happens, shakey, BP spikes, clammy. But not like a panic attack, more like a stroke/TIA feeling.
My LLMD doesn't know what it is.
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I get them as well. When they first started years ago, I got so scared thinking it was an aneurism. Problem is, now I've become so complacent about the pain that if I really do have an aneurysm, I'll probably ignore it.
Nothing helps it.
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Well I guess I have some company in this miserable symptom. I am considering a massage so thanks for that tip.
I have my nursing graduation on Friday and between these head pains, vertigo and anxiety I don't know if I can walk the stage for my pinning.
Really looking forward to my phone appt. at 330. I am very doubtful of MS. I have had 4 spinal taps in the past, negative evoked potentials, my MRI just showed one lesion that was not indicative of anything.
ER doc thought I might have had a subarachnoid bleed but since the valium eased the pain he said it was not really possible. He was going to do the spinal tap right then if the pain didn't subside.
I am getting ready to lay on some moist heat right now.
Neuro gave me valium to take every 6hrs to try and break the pain. It wears off though before the next dose and I have to be able to function for my two kids plus all my graduation stuff going on this week.
I am so disgusted to be going down this road again.
Thanks so much for your support and input..it means more than you could know.
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Just so you know, I know another Lyme patient who said 25mgs of the betablocker Atenolol stopped his headaches/stabbing pains.
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I just recently had severe headaches for 10 days straight. I'm not used to having headaches often and nothing I took seemed to work- I just waited it out. I hope your head feels better soon.
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I have frequent migraines and headaches 2-3 times per week to every day. And I get pain like what you're describing---feels like someone is driving a stake into my head and neck.
What works for me (and you may not need ALL of this) is: 2.5 mg of Vicodin (that is an ES tablet cut into 1/4's), 2 Ibuprofen, and Maxalt, which is a migraine med. Sometimes 2 of these will do it.
In your case, maybe just the low-level Vicodin would do it, or that plus Ibuprofen. And then I take tea to off-set being out of it from the codeine, if I need to function.
And, yes, the Atenolol helps me quite a bit. It's sad we have to do this, but . . . pain is terrible, and it gets worse, if you let it go too long.
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I had suffered this type of pain and hopefully can offer something to help you.
Since you mentioned the area is 'sore', my guess is that this is really a muscle spazm, not a migraine. If you take your knuckle and feel around the back of your skull, you will probably find one or more spots that kill and you don't even know it. The 'jabs' are actually referred pain.
I spent months thinking I had a brain aneurysm because my head hurt so much and had the shooting pains, often in different places ... Only to have my LLMD jab her knuckle into a spot on the back of my head. When pressed extremely hard, the top of my head and jaw stopped hurting (but the spot she jabbed hurt like crazy).
Muscle spazms typically are from 1. Bad posture and 2. - MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY
They will NOT go away on their own, and need to be broken up. There are several options.
What worked for me was Trigger Point Injections. Basically, a needle full of Lidocaine (which blissfully numbs you) is injected into the spazm. The needle breaks up the spazm.
I think I may have had as many as 6 shots into the back of my skull at one time. I had this done at my LLMD's, and continued at Pain Management.
Note of caution: Pain Mgt guys love you jam you full of 'anti-inflammatories', even with trigger point injections. So if you go that route, insist they not give you anything but the Lidocaine.
Another thing you can do at home is locate the offending area, and either have a strong loved one or yourself jam your knuckle into it as hard and as long as you can take it. It's like a thumb war - sooner or later something will give.. Follow up with heating pad.
And of course, get a RBC Magnesium test. If you're low, work to bringing levels up through IV or IM - orals won't cut it.
Hope this helps.
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If this is a trigger point, then you will need to get someone to put pressure on the knot and hold it for a couple of minutes, until it releases. this can hurt, if you have a muscle relaxer, take that first because that can help.
But, it could also be lyme. I get piercing head pains with Babesea.
As with anything, you should talk to your LLMD and other doctors, because it might be somehitng else...
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My hubby pressed on the back of my head today. Just below and to the right and left of occipital bone. It hurt like HECK!
He said it felt squishy there too.
Still waiting for my phone appt. It was supposed to be at 330 but office was busy. Told to call back at 4...they were still busy..now they are going to call me back. Hopefully it will be tonight still.
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Sorry Starfall, Headaches are no fun. They stop me in my tracks. I am getting ready to lay down on my heating pad again.
You have probably tried this but just in case you didn't how about moist heat. Wetting a dishtowel and putting it on a heating pad might relax your muscles a bit. The wet towel works better than those microwave heat wraps.
I also put an ice pack on forehead if that is pounding too. That doesn't make it go awhile but it feels nice on there.
Had my LLMD phone appt. I am going to start a new thread on it.
I will look into that. Does is take it completely away? That would be heaven. I am ready to chop my head off.
I will discuss more with LLMD when I go in on the 15th. I have to say though...I goto an excellant very recommended LLMD but I like the PA and NP more.
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Yes, just occasional headaches and minor pains. I guess it is inflamed nerves. The cortef is a hydrocortisone. Not good, but OK in low doses. I only take 10mg a day.
You're right... it's better than cutting your head off!!
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mine is like long needles being stabbed into my brain. inside the skull bones. very painful indeed.....
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It could be pain from TMJ dysfunction. Mine cause excrutiating pain on/in the entire right side of my head. The other half felt completely fine, but the right side was horrendous. My eye, ear, nasal passage, all my teeth, my neck and shoulder hurt so bad I was in tears. (okay...more than tears...I was sobbing).
Pain meds didn't touch it.
What worked? Finding a dentist that recognized the TMJ dysfunction and understood how an abnormal bite can cause such pain. Lyme, can also be associated with TMJ dysfunction.
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