Topic: red ears coming back in my children...what infection do you attribute this to?
tick battler
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My young boys used to get red ears prior to treatment. Eventually it went away so we rarely noticed it. Now I'm seeing it again, along with more emotional behavior. I suspect babesia since we have had to stop their artemisinin due to allergy issues. They are both still on Mepron and other things.
Did anyone experience red ears and what infection do you attribute it to?
Thanks,
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I've always heard it attributed to Lyme. Are they taking something for Lyme right now?
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tick battler
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Yes, they are both on Biaxin for Lyme. It is much worse with one of my boys. He is turning into an emotional wreck...and is losing his appetite...and he rests his head in the car on his seat....further signs of babesia.
So, I'm guessing that's what it is since we have never stopped Lyme treatment, but have altered the babs protocol. I'm taking my son in shortly for some routine bloodwork and his ferritin levels will be checked. If they are lower than two months ago, I will have further evidence of babs. But who knows with this disease...
Thanks for your reply. Anybody else?
Thanks,
tickbattler
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A few abstracts for further study that may help. I offer some excerpts below. ________________________________
When to Suspect Lyme - John D. Bleiweiss, M.D.
Very often, the pinna and ear lobes are varying shades of red. Less commonly, a similar erythema can be observed on the hands or malar (upper cheeks) areas. A malar rash is not pathognomonic of Lupus, if in fact SLE is distinct from LD (Abstract 55A, V LD Symposium). Fifth Disease (slapped face) is suspected of being due to LD. Lymphocytoma of the ear lobes has been encountered more often in Europe. Cold hands and feet even in warm environments occur and some patients have Raynaud's phenomenon. Potentially contributing to this vasoconstriction are excessive levels of vasoconstricting hormones, magnesium and potassium deficiency, limbic or hypothalamic dysfunction due to CNS infection, local inflammation of capillary sphincter or hypothyroidism. Eczema and psoriasis can appear in conjunction with LD. A female LD patient had generalized psoriasis covering 40% of her body. Antibiotics for LD gave total relief. Source: http://cassia.org/essay.htm
Facial nerve (pathology)
People may suffer from acute facial nerve paralysis, which is usually manifested by facial paralysis. Bell's palsy is one type of idiopathic acute facial nerve paralysis, which is more accurately described as a multiple cranial nerve ganglionitis that involves the facial nerve, and most likely results from viral infection and also sometimes as a result of Lyme disease. Iatrogenic Bell's Palsy may also be as a result of an incorrectly placed dental local-anesthetic (Inferior alveolar nerve block). Although giving the appearance of a hemi-plegic stroke, effects dissipate with the drug. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_nerve
Trigeminal neuralgia as a clinical manifestation of Lyme Neuroborreliosis Christof Fritz, Alexander R6sler, Bettina Heyden, H. J. Braune 4 December 1995
Lyme disease, which is caused by the tick-borne spirochaete Borrelia burgdolferi, is associated with a wide spectrum of nervous system abnormalities. Meningitis, cranial neuritis and painful radiculoneuritis are the most important neurological manifestations of the disease.
We report a case of trigeminal neuralgia in a patient with Lyme borreliosis in whom antibiotic treatment led to complete recovery. A 58-year-old worker was in excellent health until June 1995. Two weeks after detection of a rash on his..... Source: http://www.springerlink.com/content/h4416p15r0644313/fulltext.pdf?page=1
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I almost forgot about this topic, but found it after a quick search. Any way, here's why I am revisiting this ``red ear'' thing...
The other day, after reading Keebler's post reminding us of Dr. B's guidelines; I revisited my old bottle of Hydroxo-12 (B12) vitamin. I haven't used it in a while, so the top dispenser hole was sort of crusty. I couldn't get any out, so I removed the spout then poured some liquid out: a wee-bit too much! I must have had 20-40 drops! I thought, ``What the hell.'' I'll drink it...
The next day, I was in herx hell - one of the worst herxes ever. It was possibly worse than the herxes I had in any phases of the MP. And as before, my ears (mostly my right), got hot and beat red!
Perhaps I'll never be able to attribute this condition to any specific bug, but I am more motivated now to consider higher doses of B-12. Even as high as that dose was, my urine was not even a shade redder. I'll talk to my doctor about the intramuscular injections as well. Maybe both oral and IM would be good - a one-two punch!
Well, it's time to shovel frozen mashed potatoes from the driveway. At least I can...
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I too get red ears that I associate with Lyme.
I also get red ear flush as a result of food allergies - which are always worse during lyme flare-ups or abx. tx. TG
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i heard that lyme does the red ear thing.
might want to check their temps too.
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Odd, my now 7 year old son (who's had lyme since age 4), has had fire engine red ears off and on before treatment. Never thought to mention it, didn't even think that could be attributed to lyme. (He's only positive for lyme).
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I've been in treatment for 5 years and just stopped abx Dec 30th after IV tigelcycline. A few days after stopping my ears started turning red on and off at night and my cheeks burn. I too have completely lost my appetite. I am not sure if this is because I am nauscious but I just feel so full that if I eat even just one bite I will vomit. I want to eat, I love food, but I just feel so filled up all the time.
My LLMD told me the red ear thing is lyme. I had never heard of this before but she said it's pretty common-although it's surprising that in the 4 years I've been treating with her I've never had this symptom. She is not sure what to make of this not being hungry thing.
Let me know what you find out. I'm interested to know.
Thx, smiles
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