LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Type 2 Diabetes info needed

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Type 2 Diabetes info needed
improver
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8380

Icon 1 posted      Profile for improver     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi everyone. I am trying to help a close family member with her diabetes treatment. Her current dr has her on 7 different meds and she feels sick most of the time. In addition to me questioning if she has Lyme, I believe some of her issues have to do with her treatment or lack there of.

I am looking for a good place to find info about the combination of meds she's on and proper dosing etc.

I am also trying to get her to eat more like the lyme diet I've been on for 2 years since it has a low glycemic index.

Thanks for you help.

Posts: 413 | From nj | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
improver
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8380

Icon 1 posted      Profile for improver     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
up
Posts: 413 | From nj | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Cass A
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11134

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Cass A     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I would look into the ZONE DIET right away!! This is a simple way of eating that can reverse Type 2 Diabetes.

It worked for my husband.

The clearest book about it is MASTERING THE ZONE, which tells you how to self-test, what different sensations after eating mean, and how to self-correct so that you are not continually causing your problem.

Hope this helps!

You can PM me if you like--we also handled my husband's cholesterol, tryglicerides, overweight, etc., etc. IN SIX WEEKS without him being hungry! In fact, he feels most energetic when eating "in the zone."

Best,

Cass A

Posts: 1245 | From Thousand Oaks, CA | Registered: Feb 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
purplemom
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 21064

Icon 1 posted      Profile for purplemom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
re: Type II diabetes

Are her blood sugars well controlled? Does she check them both fasting and 2 hours after a meal and other times? (Not that many times daily but rotating the times she checks) Diabetes that is not well controlled can make you not feel well.

Has she had her HgA1C checked? (It measures blood sugar control over 3 months? Her goal should be less that 7.

Can she maintain a healthy weight and exercise? (both help with diabetes control)

She may need the diabetes meds right now to keep her blood sugars in control. She should not stop them abruptly. For some people weight loss
can reduce the amount of meds they need but diabetes is a progressive illness--the pancreas produces less insulin over time and/or more insulin resistance is developed. So sometimes no matter how good someone is with their diet they need different meds or an increased dose.

The 7 meds she is on and I'm guessing, maybe 1 to 3 are for diabetes, one or more for high blood pressure, one for cholesterol? Diabetics have an increase risk for heart disease so it is important to control blood pressure and cholesterol as well. (These can also be controlled with diet and lifestyle but some need the meds as well)

Medications can cause side effects as well so that can be tough to figure out. A good book for managing cholesterol is, "cholesterol down"

I hope that helps, not sure if that is what you were looking for?

Posts: 207 | From NH | Registered: Jul 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
improver
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8380

Icon 1 posted      Profile for improver     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thank you. This info is helpful. I am looking for a book to help us understand the diet issue, so I will find the one you suggested Cass A.

And as far as the meds, Purplemom, you are correct. Only a few are for diabetes, and the rest are for related issues which are secondary.

She is overweight but not greatly.

I don't think the combinations of meds is working well for her. One is an injectible and it makes her feel like there is a basketball in her stomach, and very nauseous.

I am also looking for info on meds:
dosing, combos, etc.

Thanks again

Posts: 413 | From nj | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
purplemom
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 21064

Icon 1 posted      Profile for purplemom     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I would go to the American Diabetes Association website and they probably have info on the medications used to treat diabetes, some help the pancreas produce more insulin, some decrease the amount of glucose the liver produces, and some help with insulin resistance.

There are many med approaches to manage the diabetes. The injectible med (byetta) is not essential if it is causing that much of a side effect. Perhaps a visit to a diabetes center that has certified diabetes educators (nurses and dietitians) can help to give recommendations to the MD for medication changes.

Posts: 207 | From NH | Registered: Jul 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
I would certainly be concerned with what 7 different medicines would be doing - pros and cons. Might some of them be supplements? There are some excellent supplements to help support glucose stability.

I sure would want to look up all the pharmaceuticals and read all about each one but not everyone does this. Also, it's hard to find good detail sometimes as the pharmaceutical companies by up all the possible web sites with names of the drugs. Sometimes, only through a cross-search, will an truly investigative article come to light.


This "Potbelly" book is specific to those who have had diabetes caused by lyme or other chronic stealth infections.

She may consider getting assessed for the full range. If infections are the cause, they need to be addressed in addition to food and supplements &/or pharmaceuticals. Some infections may not be able to be identified but adding garlic &/or olive leaf extract can be a good move for anyone, just to cover some bases.


This book is specific to lyme and other chronic stealth infections.

The author discusses the endocrine connection and effects of STRESS on a person with such infections. Again, tools are everything and adrenal support is key.

You can read customer reviews and look inside the book at this link to its page at Amazon.

http://tinyurl.com/6xse7l


THE POTBELLY SYNDROME: HOW COMMON GERMS CAUSE OBESITY, DIABETES, and HEART DISEASE - 2005


by Russell Farris and Per Marin, MD, PhD

==============

Here are few things that can help: Gymnema Sylvestre tops the list. It is absolutely wonderful - and it helps stop cravings for sweets. Usually best in a formula.

--------------------------------

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Gymnema Sylvestre - 126 abstracts


=======================

From a fabulous book, "The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook" (Tillotson):


http://tinyurl.com/5z2klz

GYMNEMA (Gymnema sylvestre )

WHAT IT DOES: Gymnema is bitter in taste, and cooling in action. It improves blood sugar control in diabetics, numbs the taste of sweet completely (for about 20 minutes), and decreases appetite (for about 90 minutes).


RATING: yellow

SAFETY ISSUES: None reported. Should not be used by people with low blood sugars (hypoglycemia).


STARTING DOSAGE:

* 1:1 extract: five to 10 ml per day
* Pill: 500-1000 mg three times per day


Gymnema actually means "sugar destroyer." It grows in the wild forests of central India, all the way to Western Ghats and up to the Himalayas.


Research indicates that gymnema stimulates insulin secretion or release of insulin from the pancreas. Japanese studies have shown that it improves glucose tolerance in animal models of diabetes, and other studies show that the effects can last for up to two months after discontinuation.


This herb is a good long-term tonic for Type I and II diabetics. Results are best seen after long-term administration, over six months to a year. I prefer to use it in combination with several other herbs for blood sugar control, because it affects only a few aspects of the imbalance.


In case you're curious, sugar tastes like sand for twenty minutes after you chew on a little gymnema.


- Full chapter at link above. And you can also search the book for ``Diabetes'' for a gold mine of more information.


=====================


http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=Gymnema


Search results for Gymnema: 6 articles

(Other beneficial supplements are also included in most of the articles).


===================


http://www.itmonline.org

Search:

Diabetes - many articles relating help from Chinese medicine

Gymnema - 2 articles, one on interaction with drugs

----

http://www.itmonline.org/

Search: Diabetes

- Eight pages of links, the top three focus on ``Treatment of Diabetes with Chinese Herbs . . . ``


======================

This is the formula my ND suggests:


http://tinyurl.com/3jjrpn


Ayush Herbs - Bio Gymnema

You can read the Ingredients here, too.
-

Posts: 48021 | From Tree House | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
improver
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 8380

Icon 1 posted      Profile for improver     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Thank you all for the info. Sorry I didn't respond sooner.
Posts: 413 | From nj | Registered: Nov 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.