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I get same thing . I believe its because of damaged vascular system. VEGF1 is hormone causing blood capillaries to grow, lyme patients are often deficient ( I am ) -there are several other thing , but basically we have poor blood supply ,especially to extremities (cold extremities another sign) due to degeneration of our vascular system
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I get it also but includes arms and legs, never really thought anything of it but it does not hurt, just looks odd.
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i have had the same thing and mine felt like i had fiberglass in my hands or something. Not sure what it is though. Unless it is another lyme symptoms.
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oh yeah, i get this big time. even my legs turn colors. and my feet get blue even...
should just hang some lights on me at christmas and call me a tree.
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Does anyone remember that show called "alien nation?" I think it was on sometime in the late 80"s. Their heads had like purple/yellow blothes.
That's what my legs look like. I've had it for 20+ years. One doctor had explained to me that it was ciculatory - my blood was getting down to my feet but not a good return back up the leg.
Since I got lyme 3 1/2 years ago, it is now in my arms and hands.
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djf2005
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Using something to help hyper-coagulation should resolve the hand issue as well as relieve some symptoms.
Seppapeptase Lumbrokinase Nattokinase Heparin
Etc, etc
My hands rarely do this anymore as I have been on these enzymes now for some time.
Wobenzyme can also be helpful in dealing w/ a hyper-coagulated state.
These substances also are rumored to help dissolve bio-films.
Best
Derek
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Circulation is impaired. Try wearing some warm gloves to warm the tissue. Constricted capillaries and low blood pressure can often create this in Lyme Patients.
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My hands are this way for many years. In the summer they are beet red.
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same for me
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My hands look like that right now!! I've wondered throughout the years, what was up with this...
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During my first visit to my LLMD, the doctor looked at my hands (which look exactly like yours) and asked how long my hands looked that way. I said, "as long as I can remember." He seemed pretty interested in them...but I don't know why (and I've been wondering ever since).
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Don't know what it is but mine do that too. I notice it more when I'm hot. My legs do the same too with the yellow/purple splotching.
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reminds me of the comment by my primary when i showed him my feet and legs
"oh i see that alot in overweight white women"....
grrrrr
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do your blotches have a very tiny red dot in the center of each pale spot? My son does... and I learned his was due to bartonella
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I have had hands just like that for years. The LLMD didn't know what to make of it and didn't really try. It happens to me from exercise or temperature changes.
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I have the same thing. Not sure when I got it, but I noticed it. It looks worse when hands are below the waist. I've wondered if it was normal, but never really thought much of it.
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I have this strange blotching as well. But its not so bad on my hands. But it is REALLY bad on my forearms and thighs. I asked a dermatologist about it and he said it was nothing to worry about. It doesn't hurt, but it is very distracting to the eye.
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mj - mine have the small dot in the middle. Where did you learn it was from bart?
As far as I remember, I've had this on my legs for twenty + years. I didn't get sick with lyme til 3 1/2 years ago. Thats when I noticed it was also on my hands and arms.
It's just damn ugly - you'd think I had a disease or something.
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I read about this in Dr S 's book on bartonella. He refers to this as chicken coop pattern or something like that. The small red dot is an extra capillary vessel----- and as as coltman stated above 'VEGF1 is hormone causing blood capillaries to grow'
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FYI- I have these strange spots as well, and I don't have bartonella. I do have a co-infection of babesia.
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Yes you can have small red spots and they will be babesia.... but there is a difference. Bartonella ones are in the center of a pale area... and are due to new capillary formation. I hope I get this straight: I think that Bartonella dots blanche when pressed on. Babesia ones are supposed to be petechaie... and like small bruises or blood blisters they do NOT blanche.
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Here are some pics, donated by Lyme patients, that may help?
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I have that too! But mine are just on the tops of my fingers. My fingers look dead! I went to the ER and they told me it was quit bizarre but not renoyards and not emergent so to come back if it progressed.
My fingers are always normal temperature, there is no pain, they just have that weird color to them. My LLMD has also seen it a few times and thinks it's quite interesting. She often brings it up and has asked several doctors.
She said that it could be Bart but if you all figure it out let me know!
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