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Hi I have mulitple questions. First men who have had low testosterone and gotten an injection how long till you see improvements? I have been reading about low testosterone and the risks. My husband's was 60 when tested seems extremely low. He is able to have sex but no drive but we always associated it to the extreme pain and lyme disease.
He is also hypothyroid and on synthroid and levels are now normal. I am wondering if both of these came from lyme disease?
He has continued to have extreme knee pain and stiffness. Dr was not willing to try clindmycin she reports to many risks. He has started on bactrim less then a week ago to see if it helps with his knee pain. He was diagnosed with lyme about 21 ago and been on many antibiotics since. This is one he has not been on. The knee pain has been constant all treatment. But now he has stiffness and pain in other joints.
Does anyone know success and risks of injecting clindamycin into joints?
Also has anyone had luck with the fentanyl patch?? He is using these and initially seemed to take awhile to kick in at first. And he has been extremely tired lately and just not feeling like himself. Not sure if it is the patches or switching around his pain medication causing this.
Sorry for so many questions. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I just cant wait to see my husband well again one day and being able to do things again. lturk
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lightparfait
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Does he have mercury amalgams in his teeth...all the things you mention are related to mercury affecting his thyroid...and hormone levels...and adding immue sresponse of imflamation to the joints.
Just think you should check into this. My symptoms cleared with mercury removal, heavy metal detox and detox in general working with a knowledgeable ND.
I was suproied to find that my issues actually left without adding more drugs...they left eliminating drugs and detoxing the debris of many years! We dont' have MD's helping us detox...only giving us more toxins to put bandaids on the symptoms...OMG!
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Can't wait to get my mercury-fillings out in 2 weeks : )
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He has no filling in his teeth at all. And was tested for heavy metals all negative.
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Pinelady
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I would seek a LLMD to treat. Lyme is intercellular
and that makes hormones available but if cells are
invaded with borrelia it could render them unable
to metabolize the hormones. Get rid of the bugs and
improvement should be seen.
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Has your husband had his adrenal function checked?
Testosterone is made in both the gonads and the adrenals. If you husband has autoimmune hypothyroidism, he is at greater risk for autoimmune adrenal insufficiency.
Does he have any other autoimmune problems (especially Celiac, atrophic gastritis, vitiligo)?
One of the symptoms of adrenal insufficiency is pain - joint and muscle. Granted, these are also major hallmarks of Lyme. But it's worth considering in my opinion.
If his symptoms became worse after an increase in Synthroid, then adrenal insufficiency really should be considered.
Take care, Leigh
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He had been seeing a LLMD for a year, prior to that saw a lyme friendly dr. Now he is back seeing a lyme friendly dr. The LLMD he saw really was letting everything slide and he was making no progress. He did not discover the hypothyroidism even though bloodwork this dr had for over a year showed he was. And also he never found the low testosterone. All the dr seemed to do was give him 4 antibiotics to take. He also did about 9 months of rocephin. His LLMD was dumbfounded as to why no progress. We just got sick of a 6 hour drive with no results.
Not sure if he has been tested for adrenals? I do not think his symptoms worsened after going on synthroid. What is the test for adrenals? And no he has no other known autoimmune problems at this time.
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That's interesting - I've actually had better luck with my Lyme-friendly doc than I did with an LLMD. The Lyme-friendly one treats me as a whole person. He is able to address my endocrine problems, GI problems, and the Lyme.
He listens to me and is generous with his time, flexible with approach and ACCESSIBLE. At this point I intend to stick with him even after the Lyme & Co have taken a back seat.
Your hubbie can start with saliva testing for the adrenals (should be 4x/day). Random blood cortisol measurements are basically useless because cortisol can bind to other proteins.
Or you can just go for it and ask your doc to order an ACTH stimulation test. This is the "gold standard" for adrenal insufficiency. It will demonstrate whether the adrenals are truly failing.
Of course there is gray area here and there are stages of insufficiency or "fatigue". By the time a person "fails" a stim test, 90% of the glands have been destroyed. Your husband would be in very rough shape if this were the case.
That's why lots of people go for the saliva tests first. The question is what to do with the result from a saliva test - most mainstream docs won't acknowledge that the test is useful, and don't know how to treat anything except complete adrenal failure (Addison's disease).
On the other hand, if your husband has true failure, he would need to replace his cortisol. Most NDs/alternative docs would want to try supplements/herbs first...this might not be enough for him.
So, I'd suggest starting with a saliva test and seeing what it shows. Then you can decide on whether to push for the stim test.
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