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kday
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What is the cause of this? My stomach and chest feels like it's trying to rip in two. I feel like I am crawling out of my skin. The feeling of doom comes every time, and sometimes panic if I don't medicate myself quick enough. Before I was able to take antioxidants, and that was enough to go back to sleep, but my benzos are needed now as it's more severe. It's a very toxic feeling.

There has to be an explanation of why this is happening. It's too consistent and doesn't correlate to when I took my anxiety meds the night before.

edit: I forgot to add that I don't wake myself up, these terrible sensations wake me up.

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Have you been treated for parasites and worms?

They can play a MAJOR role in Lyme disease. Also if you are taking meds that cause a herx, the dieoff is probably circulating from the day before.


Anxiety is on the symptom list for parasites. Check out the sympyom list at humaworm. Also check out

www.lymephotos.com

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map1131
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You should look for Gigi's posting of the body clock. During sleep at night the body has stages where certain organs do their business.

This could give you some answers to this wake-up and sx. Do search on Gigi and sleep/organs.

Pam

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Hi,

I don't have an answer for you, but man do I get this. It actually starts for me at 5am every morning. It is terrible and does not correlate to what I have taken the night before either. I am praying that my continued bart treatment will help it go away.

Sorry not to have answers, but I do understand.

Kathy

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Kday,

I have gone through bouts, long bouts when anxiety has awakened me in early morning.....like you, I had been sleeping soundly and the anxiety awakens me.

I get a horrible feeling in my stomach and cannot keep my body still even though I want/wanted to be sleeping.

Impossible to go back to sleep w/o taking something to tamp down the nervous system...klonopin, sometimes benadryl works.

The anxiety for me waxes and wanes...treating the ORGANIC illness is the way out...so keep on plugging away at your bart and other infections.

That is all we can do....oh, and when my anxiety was at it's absolute worse, paxil worked for me in stabilizing it.

Hoping that you get relief soon from this horrific manifestation of this illness....

Best,
feelfit

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Any of the TBI's can cause anxiety. Bartonella often causes anxiety.

If you wake up from a sound sleep with anxiety you *may* have sleep apnea. It is not unusual in lyme patients.

If you do have sleep apnea, you must be treated. It is a dangerous condition without treatment. You can die in your sleep, have a stroke or a heart attack. It can affect your blood sugars, weight, causes irritability, falling asleep at the wheel of a car etc. etc..

I take GABA and theonine for anxiety. They help a great deal. Also detox helps. GABA might interact with anti-depressants so be sure to check it out with your doctor if you are considering it.

Terry
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That's a time when adrenals really need rest but, when weak, they actually rev then to a level when the cause a chemical reaction in the body. Exhausted adrenals can make you nauseated, too, especially in the morning.

What kind of adrenal support are you doing?

And what is your liver support?

This could also be a stressed liver, contributing to a toxic neuroexitability. Magnesium is the number one thing to help as (along with with Terry is saying) Magnesium will calm the hyper NMDA's reaction to toxins so that the calming GABAs are more in balance.

Gael, too, makes a strong case for parasite connection. There are several ways to address parasites - they can cause the symptoms you describe.

It's likely many things and will need support from all around. I think benzos could add to the problem with more stress on the liver. There are many other ways to conquer anxiety - mostly with addressing source of toxins (whether lyme or parasites - or both) and with excellent liver and adrenal support. Magnesium (and also GABA supplements, starting very low) may do better for you than benzos.

Fish oil and curcumin, too, are very helpful.
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Is your am cortisol high?
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Gigi posting of organ clock info. Check these out.

Pam


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/66344?

http://www.immuneweb.org/articles/chineseclock.html

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My doctor said if you have the same symptom (like headache or anxiety)at the same time of day everyday that USUALLY is is medication related.....

I was taking a two anti-depressant medications, of course because everyone thinks that because I am tired all the time and feel sick all the time that I am depressed.

When I started having the anxiety attacks, I was freaking out because I am always tired, slow, and I don't want to move much. This feeling of my heart pounding and blood racing through my body and an inability to sit still but I couldn't do anything productive because of the racing thoughts really scared me.

I quit all anti depressant medications and it still took me a week to get the meds out of my system, but I finally got over it. My panic/anxiety attacks started with one a day but as the meds increased, so did the attacks. It was aweful and I hope you can find the cause to your anxiety.

Shalome

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In the past some sleep or anxiety medications actually caused me to wake up with anxiety (Ativan). When stopping them, anxiety went away.
Not sure if this is what you are experiencing.

Hope you feel better soon.

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kday,

I would definitely get your a.m. cortisol checked if you haven't already.

Waking up with the feelings you describe is very typical for low cortisol. It should peak around 7am, but if it doesn't (can't), we feel REALLY bad.

I have Addison's (basically really bad adrenal fatigue) and prior to beginning treatment, I woke up each morning feeling agitated, nauseous, you name it. It was horrible. Even now, if I take my morning dose of meds too late, I get that feeling.

Push to get your cortisol measured if possible. It can be dangerous not to have enough, and it's impossible to fight infection with out it.

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Everyone,

I do have a prescription for bio-identical cortisol by my integrative doctor. I stopped taking it when I started feeling bad in mornings. Now I am feeling worse.

I didn't ask my doctor if I could stop it, but I just wanted to see if that was causing me to wake.

Would it be beneficial to start it again? I am so confused with the cortisol thing to be honest.

Stopping benzos is not an option for me.

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