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Ticked
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I read last night that magnesium should be applied to the skin in an oil form and allowed to soak in (transdermal). The writer said that oral magnesium "FEEDS" lyme! I'm confused!

Do any of you think/know this to be true, that the oral mag. feeds lyme??

I've just ordered the "Albion Chelated Magnesium" capsules from Swanson and started taking them, and now I read this!

Maybe the magnesium oil would be a more effective way to get the mineral in our system than taking it orally, but I don't want to "feed" the little bugs!

What do you think??

Thanks

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Try swanson mag oil- i just started using it and its great.

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There is only one writer who says magnesium feeds lyme and, although it is in the outer coating of the cyst form, and lyme causes patients to be magnesium deficient, we cannot starve out lyme by withholding any needed nutrients without causing our bodies real harm.

Feed your body. Attack lyme in ways other than starving your cells of nutrients they need. Transdermal is good, too. Whether through your skin or your stomach, it gets into the body so if the lyme is going to take it up, it will do so regardless. But we still need it.

But, again, there are far better ways to combat lyme than by weakening your body with magnesium deficiency. Low magnesium can contribute to seizures, anxiety and many other dangerous symptoms.

I am more strongly opinionated about magnesium as it helps me to avoid seizures and it also helps me deal with tinnitus and hyperacusis.

However, all that said, it is important to read the work of the author you mentioned and give it some thought. Then read what other ILADS-member authors and LLMD authors have to day about it. Most LLMDs still strongly advise magnesium supplementation as needed.

But, in reading about this, and still keeping a watchful eye on the research about all this, we can learn more.
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mag oil works great- If my knees hurt spay some oil on my knees and it helps a lot.

I diluted my down by 50%- It burned at full strength-

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Here are some quotes from Dr. Joseph Burrascano's lyme treatment guidelines concerning the need for oral magnesium. Burrascano is the lyme guru of the U.S. and the world.

"Magnesium deficiency is very often present and quite severe. Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, myocardial irritability, poor stamina and recurrent tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value. Oral preparations are acceptable for maintenance, but those with severe deficiencies need additional, parenteral dosing: 1 gram IV or IM at least once a week until neuromuscular irritability has cleared." (p. 6)

"6. MAGNESIUM (required)
Magnesium supplementation is very helpful for the tremors, twitches, cramps, muscle soreness, heart skips and weakness. It may also help in energy level and cognition. The best source is magnesium L-lactate dehydrate (``Mag-tab SR'', sold by Niche Pharmaceuticals: 1-800-677-0355, and available at Wal-Mart). DO NOT rely on ``cal-mag'', calcium plus magnesium combination tablets, as they are not well absorbed. Take at
least one tablet twice daily. Higher doses increase the benefit and should be tried, but may cause diarrhea. In some cases, intramuscular or intravenous doses may be necessary." (p.28)

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

My lyme doc had me take oral magnesium.

I think what you read is definitely not the majority opinion.

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Ticked, ditto with Keebler. I would add that there's no law that says you only have to use one form of Mg. I took oral for a while, but now absolutely love transdermal. You can do both; if too much, your bowels will definitely let you know!

If you're pressed for time on a busy day, there's nothing like transdermal oil for fast acting relief of sx's. Be sure to mix with equal amount of water after you spray it into a glass (not plastic), else when you apply, it stings like crazy.

www.magnesiumdirect.com

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My ND gave me this tip but it would involve the use of a plastic container as it's done in the shower. The stronger the container, like hard acrylic, better than thin pliable plastic.

As preparing for showering, mix about 1/4 cup of Epson Salts in a few cups of warm water and set aside while you shower. When finished cleaning, pour the solution all over - but avoid any cuts or rashes. Do not try to get in all the nooks and crannies, so to speak. You just want the solution to flow on normal skin.

Wait a bit . . . and rinse off very well.

If the solution is too strong or you wait too long, your skin will itch. Be ready with the shower to rinse if it starts to itch or burn. If the solution is just right you should be able to stand, gently stretch to pass the time but be careful not to slip.

More magnesium is supposed to be absorbed in just a few minutes with small amount of epson salts that in a bath with more (but which would be way more diluted).

I lost the page she gave me about this but it may pop up on a web search. I never "do" recipes so forgot the details. I do know that too strong of a solution can cause irritation that can last for a day or two - easy does it.

Be sure the salts have dissolved before pouring onto your body. Otherwise, they are sure to burn. Dilution is vital.

And, be sure the water is warm enough so you don't get too chilled. Again, too, be sure to rinse very well.
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I really feel that I am magnesium deficient, based on the many symptoms that I have.

After taking the Albion Chelated Magnesium capsules for a few days, in some ways, I seem to be feeling worse. More tired, sleepy, brain fog, etc.

But, I do seem calmer, less nervous. Does this make sense? Does magnesium supplementing make you feel worse?

Maybe it's just my body adjusting to it. I do plan to try the mag oil. I assume the mag oil and Derma Mag are pretty similar.

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Magnesium shots have helped during times of Lyme muscle spasms.

There is a good srpay/oil version.

Get it in you anyway you can.

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I take magnesium via im injections 2x a week. it really helps
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