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Ticked
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I read this on a post here last night and it got my attention.

I got 3 right out of 90 on a VCS test. That indicates that I have neurotoxins on the brain. I understand that I probably have ammonia built up there too, as well as maybe other areas of my body.

How many of you have done the baking soda/water mix for ammonia removal?

It certainly would be an inexpensive treatment if it works! I've read many good things about baking soda. Dr. Mercola did an article about it's many uses not long ago.

If it's worked for you with the ammonia problem, how exactly do you take it? How much, how often, etc.?
Thanks, I really need to get my vision, lightheadedness, balance, headaches, brain fog under control!!

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I wonder if this would work for headaches? I'm eager to read what those with experience have to say.
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How can you tell if you have high ammonia?

Often times after emptying my bladder I can smell a strong ammonia smell, is this how you can tell?

Do you have a web site to do the survey?

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Ticked
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Right now I'm just assuming that I have ammonia issues based on my symptoms and the neurotoxin levels.

No website, TS96, just seeing if anyone here knows anything about this theory.

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I Pm'd the poster as I also have an interest this is what she had to say, hope she doesn't mine.

[The dose would depend on your level of ammonia, I think. You would have to just try it and see. An MD told me about this on Saturday. I have not tried it myself, but it is in some current literature on detox.]

Well I can't find much research yet on the internet. Still looking.

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Here's some pretty interesting and important information on the subject of ammonia and lyme disease. Dr. Jernigan of the Hansa Center made this discovery. He's the doctor who's been treating me for lyme disease.

http://www.hansacenter.com/pdfs/AmmoniaBloodBrainBarrier.pdf

For more information about Dr. Jernigan's treatment protocol that I'm on you can read about it on this thread.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/89968?

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Ticked...Baking soda and water is a part of Dr.K"s rehydration cocktail. Mercola follows Dr. K's guidelines and attends his seminars to get this info.

For 12 oz. (use 8 oz of water with 4 oz milk)
consume 6am and 6pm. (1/2 in am and 1/2 in pm)

Milk (or other milks)
Water
4 T Biopure Matrix Electrolytes (contain phosphorus)
1/4 tsp baking soda
sugar or agave to taste...(no artificial sweetners)

no fruit juice and no more than 1/4 tsp of baking soda for the 12 oz liquid daily!

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Just curious , why is milk suggested here ? The others make sense , but the milk does not to me.

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TS96, the VCS (visual contrast sensitivity) test is a vision test that you take online.

There is info to read and a survey to fill out first, and then you look at another screen that has the vision test on it.

There is a small charge--used to be about $8 or something like that. Not sure if that has changed or not.

http://www.chronicneurotoxins.com/

Hope that helps,
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Thanks for the link nutmeg. I think it is very useful.

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i think you can tell by blood test also. mine was sky high at one point and i had to stop treatment. infact it was three times normal.

most people don't know to check their ammonia levels but it's very important.

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Yucca works for ammonia. I have Yucca 450 mg from vitamin shoppe. But you can also buy the Yucca root and bake it like a potato, it also tastes like a potato.

Gary thanks,I have extreme MCS and high blood ammonia.So probably I can improve.

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I will try the yucca and see if I can think more clearly .
Do you notice better cognitive function?

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annxyzz,

after I wrote the post I took one yucca ( should take 6 a day) and I am very tired today. So it does something.Start slowly.

Normally I have no problem with cognitive function only when I detox.
Taurin helps for some people.

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I also use Yucca for Detox. I wanted to mention that Yucca is considered a bile sequestering herb similar in its function to cholesteryamine. In that it binds to the toxins in bile so they are excreted instead of being re=absorbed in the small intestine.

karenl, you mentioned Taurin. Did you mean Taurine? Taurine is part of the pathway in which contributes to the production of glutithione.

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So I can use my 6 yucca instead of cholestyramine which I do not like?


Taurine can detox something I just forgot.

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I can't tell you what to use. But if I had a hold of cholestyramine, even though the constipation and bloating side effects are quite uncomfortable from what I hear, I would use it.

Herbs and pectin fibers can't touch what cholestyramine does for binding toxins. I use them only because I have been unable to get ahold of cholestyramine. Herbs and pectin fibers have an efficacy comparison of only at the max, 25%, and more often, less as compared directly with cholestyramine. Some do nothing to bind toxins despite their claims.

The average length of time for use of cholestyramine is about 3 to 6 weeks in a non-Lyme toxin exposure and could very well be longer in the case of chronic Lyme and its toxins. Where as with herbs and pectin fibers, you are committed to a much longer time frame, and in the context of toxins, and what they can do to your body, herbs and pectin fibers may not be the wisest choice. A choice none the less that is yours alone.

I believe Taurine is part of the glutithione pathway, and lack there of will also contribute to depletion of, or the body's inability to make more glutithione at least from the cysteine formation of that pathway, in which us Lyme sufferers already have a problem with. It is also a participant in the formation of bile salts, in which the cholestyramine is binding and excreting through the large intestine along with the toxins.

I suspect what you forgot is that Taurine can counteract the presence of homocysteine?

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My son used cholestyramine (happily without any side effects) for several weeks, and the difference afterwards was obvious just from that one time. I'd like to see him do it again. (I'd also like to try it myself.)
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