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seibertneurolyme
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Most of the herbs in this article I have read about elsewhere. Hubby has taken all but a couple of them before.

Has anyone tried this specific protocol??? from

http://plantcures.com/toxicheat.html

The article does not state if the 6 herbs in the formula are in equal proportions or not -- I would assume not based on most Chinese formulas I have read. Pretty sure the herbs are all available from 1st Chinese or elsewhere and it would probably be cheaper to order the powders in bulk and make your own capsules.

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Lyme Disease: Traditional Chinese Medicine Offers Treatment for the Toxic Fire

Monday, February 22, 2010 by: Christopher Gussa, citizen journalist

(NaturalNews) In Traditional Chinese Medicine, Lyme disease is treated as toxic fire. These fire toxins are treated with extreme heat clearing herbs.

From the western point of view, fire toxins include aggressive entities such as bacterial and viral infections but are not limited to them. They can be amoebic parasites and even just toxins of chemical nature or metal particles.

Likewise, from a western point of view, the heat clearing herbs have been proven to have a very effective anti-viral and antibacterial action as well as a "cleansing of the blood" effect on other small particles.

Below is a TCM protocol for Lyme Disease grouped into three parts:

Clearing The Toxic Fire (Killing The Bacterium)

Based on the best of TCM protocols, here is a "clear toxic heat" formula for use as an anti-toxin or "fire quenching agent." These amazing herbs have been successfully used against fire toxins such as malaria, pneumonia, diphtheria, septic angina, typhoid fever and others.

The 6 herbs used in this formula to clear toxic heat are 5:1 extracts of:

Chuan xin lian - Andrographis paniculate (a very effective anti-toxin heat clearing herb with anti-spirochetal action in particular)

Huang Lian - Coptis chinensis (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

Jin Yin Hua - Flos Lonicerae japonicae (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

Da Qing Ye - Folium Isatidis (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

Ban Zhi Lian - Scutellaria barbata; Herba (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

Tu Fu Ling - Smilax glabra; Rhizoma (Anti-spirochetal action)

As part of this protocol it is also important to take 2 grams twice daily of Hu Zhang powder (Natural resveratrol from Knotweed in 5:1 extract). It is positive against Leptospirosis, Treponema denticola (spirochetes in oral flora), Bartonella (Buhner) and many gram neg and gram pos bacteria.

Continually Removing The Toxins From The Joints:

Xu Duan (ChineseTeasel Root) taken with a "Clear Toxic Heat" formula will help drive the spirochetes from the joints into the blood stream (where it can be killed by the heat clearing herbs). Xu Duan Teasel in tincture form is the best way your body can absorb it.

Maximizing Your Immune System With a Strong Defense:

There must also be an effective formula for the immune system that is suitable for long term use. Reishi mushroom and Chinese Astragalus 5:1 (Called Strong Defense) are perfect.

Together all these herbs become the building blocks of a true hard working lyme disease protocol that, although formulated from ancient herbs, becomes "cutting edge" in fighting this toxic fire we call Lyme Disease.

Sources: This protocol is based entirely on author's research and knowledge of Traditional Chinese Medicine.

About the author

Christopher Gussa founded Plant Cures Inc. which handcrafts over 150 Serious Herbal Medicine Products for Specific Disorders all created through clinical application.

Their products are for Serious Disease and also Powerful Tonic Health. Please visit Plant Cures at WWW.PLANTCURES.COM or call them at 1-800 979 2027

Christopher Gussa is a formulator of Natural Medicine. He is also a TCM practitioner and Certified Master / Clinical Herbalist for 30 years. He is certified in both Western Herbal Therapy and Traditional Chinese Herbal Medicine.

Chris Gussa: "Plant Cures is currently working with over 9,000 medicinal plants to bring about healing through the true science of combining the whole energies of whole plants. A plants energy is from its whole part. (flowers, fruit, leaves, stems, roots etc)

While the "science" of seeing some of the isolated molecular constituents in food and herbs can be interesting at times, there is no "one magic ingredient" in any plant.

(You would think it would be science trying to tell you this type of logic, instead of me) But no! They would rather play this childish game of trying to find the "Pot of gold" in a plant so they can synthesize it and dazzle the FDA with a "New Drug" that will most likely cause the usual death and destruction!

Here is a link to musicial message called "Pharmaceutical Drug Guys" Let's Give Big Pharma The Boot!

http://plantcures.com/PharmaGuys.mp3

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Is this based on Chinese Five Element theory ?
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I have not taken the specific formula you list (or I may have but not that BRAND). Like, your husband, I've taken all of them before in other formulas.

Article discussing properties of some of those herbs listed and some detail about a specific formula:

www.itmonline.org/arts/lyme.htm

Lyme Disease: Treatment with Chinese Herbs

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At the same ITM site, a search for "Toxic Heat" will bring up ten articles:

http://www.itmonline.org

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Many of these are also in the Hepapro formulas and some in varioius Seven Forests formulas, especially in Myrolea-B (link in next post).

As well, this GU article below is relevant - but not easy to read.

This explains how, for thousands of years, infections have been prone to coexistence by taking on a stealth nature:

http://www.classicalchinesemedicine.org/clinicalinfo/downloads/fruehauf_gufinal.pdf

GU SYNDROME: A Forgotten Clinical Approach to Chronic Parasitism

- by Heiner Freuhauf, Ph.D., L.Ac.

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You might also be able to search a few of the individual herbs here but you'd have to go with the more common name for each:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com

The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)

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Also by Tillotson - a VERY Long chapter here describing "Toxic Heat":

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/removing-heat-and-inflammation-from-the-blood.html

Removing Heat and Inflammation from the Blood


Excerpt: . . . The main physiological components of inflammation are pain, heat and swelling. Pain is the nervous system's response to heat and irritation when the body initiates the inflammation process to burn away offending agents. . . .

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For Searching at PubMed or at ITM ( www.itmonline.org ) - the most common name in front of each one helps with search:


COPTIS Huang Lian - Coptis chinensis (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

LONICERA Jin Yin Hua - Flos Lonicerae japonicae (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

ISATIS Da Qing Ye - Folium Isatidis (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

SCUTE Ban Zhi Lian - Scutellaria barbata; Herba (Anti-toxin heat clearing)

SARSAPARILLA (or SMILAX) Tu Fu Ling - Smilax glabra; Rhizoma (Anti-spirochetal action)
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Describing the action of some of those same herbs:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/flu.htm

Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.

The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.

Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.

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A history of this formula:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/shuang.htm

SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D.- 2003


Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .

. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.

Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.

In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.


. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,

. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."

It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."

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For Babesia (and Malaria), Chinese medicine uses artimisinin (may be called "qin hao tzu" but I don't recall exactly. I took this, some of the time along with atovaquone (the 'standard med" for babesia. and was able to overcome the babesia even though I don't have a spleen, and subsequently, I ultimately beat the lyme. I wonder if there is a chinese herbal treatment that's as effective for lyme derectly?
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