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Hi all, When is the best time to take Zeolite? Any experiences out there you'd like to share?
Thanks, need all the help I can get right now with adding new supplements!
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I believe that you have to take it away from any drugs, herbs or supplements - just to be on the safe side. I would say at least 2 hours before or after taking any drugs, herbs, supplements...
I actually called Allergy Research Company to ask them about Chitosan & that's what they told me. It's not the same thing but I would use that as a guideline.
I have been on the Cowden protocol & he says to take the zeolite in the evening with some of the herbs in the protocol. I'm not sure why it's like that... I would take it away from anything just to be sure.
You don't want to make your drugs, supplements, herb less effective... We pay enough for them!
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Hi sparkle, I'm not familiar with Chitosan--is that used like Zeolite to bind toxins?
Zeolite in the evening? Hard to find the right time for these things! thanks!
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Yeah - it's tricky to time everything out.
I think it was Nanotech Chitosan (it was a while ago). It's something that is supposed to absorb toxins like zoelite. It's made from a shellfish.
I didn't find either product to be all that helpful. To me charcoal, psylium, clay were better...
Dr. Schulze makes a great product - Intestinal Formula #2. It's Flax Seed, Pharmaceutical Grade Bentonite Clay, Apple Pectin, Activated Willow Charcoal, Marshmallow Root, Psyllium Seed, Slippery Elm Bark, Peppermint Leaf, Cayenne Pepper Blend.
This is what I found to be the best. (I don't sell any products or get any commissions from manufacturers.)
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I recently started taking a zeolite product called "Natural Cellular Defense". It is too soon to say whether it is helping or not since I have only been taking it for a couple days now. I have not noticed any side effects though so that is a good thing.
The doctor that recommended this product told me that it did not interact with any medications (except cancer meds) or vitamins. I have been taking it 3x per day with meals and meds.
When I saw your post I decided to try to find out more for myself. I found some interesting information at the Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center website.
These are the Herb-Drug Interactions taken directly off the website:
# Since zeolites have chelating and ion-exchanging effects, they can potentially bind to tetracycline derivatives, quinolones, and iron resulting in decreased bioavailability.
# Zeolites have also been shown to adsorb aspirin, theophylline, propanolol, and phenobarbital in vitro (4).
# Zeolites may have antioxidant effects and can potentially interfere with the actions of some chemotherapy drugs.
# Zeolites may also provoke graft versus host reaction (14) therefore, they should not be used with other immunosuppressant drugs or in transplant patients.
# Because zeolites have buffering effect and can increase the pH of the stomach, premature disintegration of enteric coated medications may occur when used concomitantly.
So it looks like we should try to take zeolite supplements away from meds if possible. Makes supplementing more complicated.
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Re: "The doctor that recommended this product told me that it did not interact with any medications (except cancer meds) or vitamins. I have been taking it 3x per day with meals and meds."
I don't know how a doctor could say this... I don't see how binders can selectively bind to some things & not others. There is some info around about "ad"sorption vs. "ab"sorption but it seems a bit far fetched to me.
Re: "# Since zeolites have chelating and ion-exchanging effects, they can potentially bind to tetracycline derivatives, quinolones, and iron resulting in decreased bioavailability."
This is pretty significant in treating Lyme...
Maybe I just don't know enough about chemistry but I think it's best to be on the safe side & take it away from meds, supplements, etc.
In any case, the cheaper stuff seemed to work better for me - like clay, psylium & charcoal... Everyone is different, though.
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Hi sammy and sparkle, Thanks for all the great information--you guys are amazing, I would never have found this out on my own.
To either of you, were your herxes more tolerable on the zeolite or am I wasting my money? I'll post how I do when I start..thanks!
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I didn't really notice much of a difference with the zeolites.
It depends on what you experience as a herx. They can be different depending on treatment & what's being killed.
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