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I've been reading that heat is a good thing to help kill off Lyme... we have a hot tub and was wondering if anyone knows if it's good or bad to use it?
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Pinelady
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Early I soaked at least 3 times a week. I was lyme brain then and desperate. I should have cked the
temp. and I should have had someone there with me to help in case I passed out, or couldn't get out.
I helped my pain greatly. But it sure can make you weak.
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- Heat is not a good thing. Warmth is, but not heat. You can get the body sweating great with warmth but hot temps can cause major set-backs, sometimes long-lasting. If it makes you weak later that day or the next, it was too much or too hot.
There is no way to get the body hot enough to actually kill spirochetes and still be safe for the person. However, when the body is warmed, increased circulation can help increase oxygen flow and that can help fight lyme. But it need not be hot - and should not be hot. Most lyme patients have cardiac involvement of one kind or another and high heat can be dangerous.
With a hot tub, if YOU can control the kinds of chemical and the heat - that is good. But, with a public hot tub, chlorine levels have to be pretty high in order to kill off certain germs that you really don't want floating around you.
Since this is your own hot tub, you can use chemicals that are not going to impact your liver as much as those in public tubs and you can also dial down the temperature - that also means you can enjoy it longer and stretch and play around more for gentle work-out. -
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Many say heat will kill the bugs. There are some doctors who do hyperthermia treatments for diseases that are like lyme and it is supposed to kill cancer too.
I know some do local hyperthermia by using techniques like infared or such devices that can put the heat into a local spot for people with cancer in a certain place like the liver or spine or whatever.
Overall body treating I have not heard of doctors doing but they do support things like ozone saunas and some of those get up to about 104 in temp and they try to build up your time in there.
I would start out in it slow and make sure you are tolerating it.
At the very least it will help with detox and if it can or does help kill and bugs that would be good too..
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Infrared saunas for detox heat and getting the oxygen (which also kills LD) flowing are the best according to my LLMd.
You need to ask your LLMd because Keebler is right, hot "baths" can cause setbacks.
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- FIR saunas - FAR Infrared are designed to by used at low heat, unlike traditional saunas that use high heat. The low heat FIR saunas actually can penetrate more deeply, increase oxygen flow - and the body still sweats nicely - without running the dangers of getting too hot.
There are many lyme patients who have suffered long-term consequences from getting too hot. Take it very slowly and always listen to your body. If you feel bad, back off immediately.
If you go to PubMed you'll get some great explanations of the benefit of low heat saunas in a search of the differences between regular saunas and infrared saunas on cardiac patients (we're not even talking about lyme patients there but many with lyme also have heart concerns).
Some of the same differences- and safety measure - of lower heat benefits can also apply to a lower heat hot tub. -
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The warmth will increase circulation, relax muscles, and make you sweat.
It is also good to drink alot of water afterward to rehydrate and help flush you out. Also shower after the hot tub to get the sweat off.
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Do you know what a good temp would be to start her off at? This is a personal hot tub so I can control the heat for her. I will bring this up with her LLMD next week also to see what he thinks. I certainly don't want her to have any setbacks since we just started treatment. She does have heart palpitations alot (scary) so I'm concerned about that as well.
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quote:Originally posted by Pinelady: Early I soaked at least 3 times a week. I was lyme brain then and desperate. I should have cked the
temp. and I should have had someone there with me to help in case I passed out, or couldn't get out.
I helped my pain greatly. But it sure can make you weak.
Ditto for me! The weakness for me was only after I left the tub; very relaxed and no pain, I could sleep. And the hotter I could get it, the better... But yes, do take it slow and definite the limitations of what can be withstood.
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As far as heart conditions and hot tubs I will pass onto you what my cardio doc said.
Keep the hot tub temp at 100 degrees or less. 99 to 98 would be best. Close to normal body temp.
As to lyme, can't tell you, sorry. I use a hot tub alot, we have our own. We keep it about 99 and low chemicals as possible. It helps me greatly with pain.
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