lyme in Putnam
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I'm dead tired and am dying to sleep. I have had the drained tired sleep and dream
constantly. whenI wake up its the same confusion, disorientation, and like everyone,
make the best of the day that you can. Thinking force myself to stay up, can break the sleep
thing inducing the dreams and this state that makes me feel so far from me and my thinking.
Started bactrim today. I miss the healthy hug my pillow and sleep for hours sleep. This started
in December and I've been on iv since january. thanks if anyone has had similar experience.
Could you herx for months? I've heard of 2 weeks, but not months of herxing.
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Lymeorsomething
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LIP, I'm always up too late even when I'm tired. I can never figure the sleep thing out. When I sleep longer (over 8 hours), I feel worse than when I get about 6 hours of sleep.
Generally, I seem to manage to get enough Z's though.
Did you mention these issues to your doc? Maybe your doc can recommend some supps for your sleep.
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Keebler
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- Sorry, yes, indeed - one can herx for months. For some, the entire time of treatment. But your LLMD should know what you are going through as liver support might need to be adjusted.
Forcing yourself to stay up to break the cycle can actually be very dangerous for several reasons. Forced rest in the dark is best, even if you can't sleep. Soft music can help but never lively music as you don't want to stimulate your brain at all. You want to soothe it.
Liver stress is a frequent cause of trouble sleep. Therefore, liver support helps.
Lyme toxicity causes the excitatory NMDA receptors to want to pary and dance all night. It overpowers the calming GABA receptors to create a "tired but wired" sort of effect.
Magnesium and calcium can calm the NMDA brain receptors. Fish oil / OmegaBrite, too.
As well, adrenal dysfunction causes surges of cortisol at all the wrong times.
Adrenal support can help heal the adrenal system. Vitamin B-5; Ashwagandha, Eleuthero, Cordyceps, Rhodiola (but it can be too stimulating for some).
Some need a bit more help with very low dose Cortef.
"Forced Rest" with lights out - staying in the dark, in bed even if our mind races - may help our bodies get used to doing what we know we need rather than becoming active about 10 pm. Any light in our eyes after 10 or 11 prevents our brain from making melatonin and we are just toast, then.
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klutzo
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To continue what Keebler was talking about, if you are like me and have to get up at night to pee and take meds, but lose your balance in the dark since getting Lyme, you can use red Xmas light bulbs in your night lights.
They make a size of Xmas bulb that fits in night light sockets. They will not stop your melatonin production like regular lights in the blue spectrum, and you can still see well enough not to trip or fall, esp. if you get vertigo in the dark like I do now.
An added benefit is that the xmas lights last about 50 times longer than regular night light bulbs.
klutzo
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Thats a good idea, Klutzo-I'm gonna look into that as well. I usually have to wake up once a night to pee (damn water intake haha) and I never turn lights on because I don't want to disturb my cycle but I am always tripping over things.
I find I need exactly 7.5-8 hours of sleep with preferably two small 20-30 minute cat naps during the day. Some days the naps are not needed.
if I get more than 8 hours of sleep, I feel absolutely awful and like a train wreck. Part of it is needing to keep my supps and meds and eating cycle as close to the same everyday as possible, so sleeping more than usual messes this up.
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