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I have wondered if this could be part of my problem because I have always worked with metal. Does anyone know how to go about being tested for metals? I think I was tested before my first MRI but I was told that is different and not as accurate? Is it possible for me to be tested for metals by myself or is this something I should bring up with my first appt with my LLMD or do I have to see another doctor? I still have yet to be tested for Lyme through IGENIX as well.
Sorry for all the questions I'm just lost and trying to figure this out since doctors cant.
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My LLMD did a urine test for metals. It's a provoked test, meaning you take a chelating agent, then collect urine for several HOURS (so you would remember it!!!).
I would mention you had exposure to metals to your LLMD so perhaps he will do the test.
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Good suggestion, 6.
Hair analysis only shows what is goind OUT. Some metals hide well so you nees to see what is really there.
IME working with metals can make things worse. I was a machinist / toolmaker for ten years + when I chelated them out too fast i really felt like crapola !
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Challenge tests are not conclusive. Some people even after taking the medication for the challenge are unable to release any metals. Some release only some. Whatever the results, it is not conclusive. I have known people who did not release any toxic metals after several tests, yet were very toxic.
The amount released is also not an indication of how much, if any, remains in the various body compartments. Neither DMPS nor DMSA which is used for challenge test crosses the blood brain barrier where most metals are.
Unless you just arrived on this earth from Mars, you can assume that you have accumulated toxic metals. It is safe to assume, that if your mother was toxic, had amalagams, passed the metals on to you and through breastfeeding.
I have been around thousands of people with Lyme over many years and have yet to meet one who is not toxic from heavy metals. Metal toxicity is an invitation to Lyme and other infections, parasites, fungi, because it creates a perfect terrain for pathogens to flourish amd survive.
I have also never met anyone with Lyme who got well without addressing toxic metals and changing their lifestyle. There are many factors involved why some accumulate more than others.
Hair analysis is a great way to test for toxic metals. Do one test to get a basis, and go onto a metal detox program for several weeks; then do another test and observe the changes. It takes a doctor knowledgable in the subject and to be able to interpret the hair test.
If you find a good practitioner who does energetic testing (muscle testing, Autonomic Response Testing (ART), EAV, or other), they can pretty much determine some of the causes for your feeling ill. Metals work in synergy. Toxic metals and certain infections show up. Mercury alone is bad, but mercury and lead together can produce symptoms 100fold. Not all metals show at once in any form of testing.
There is no lab test anywhere around the world that will tell how much toxic metal is hiding in your system. Some reservoirs simply won't let go until other problems, often emotional, are solved. If you are allergic to any of them, the body will not release them until you correct the allergy energetically, i.e. correct the error in the DNA (www.allergy-immun.de)
Take care.
Read all you can to inform yourself.
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We are currently working with an md/homeopath on metal detox.
He gives an IV of DMPS, then a urine test over a 90 minute time span. He says this is the most accurate way of testing.
Our hair test didn't show much of anything.
We did an oral dose of DMSA last summer, then a urine test and it didn't show much either.
The IV test showed us carrying a much heavier load of heavy metal than the other tests.
He is now treating us with oral DMSA, OSR, and a Pekana product called Toxex.
We've been to several mds, including llmds along the way and we finally found someone who understands heavy metals and how to detox.
Not all llmds know how to treat metal toxicity. So be sure to find someone who knows what they are doing. I would not try to do it alone.
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linky123, when you did the hairtest, did you get the essential minerals showing on the same test.? Doctor's Data hairtest shows the mineral base and usually, if toxics are not showing in the hair, the mineral base is insufficient. If the toxic metals appear in the hair, the minerals are usually good and on the upper percentile range.
It is another way of getting more info on what is actually happening with the toxic metals.
Take care.
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Yes, it showed nutrient minerals, and mineral ratios. Some of ours were out of wack, or deficient. So we are supplementing to try to get them back in balance.
What you say makes sense after looking at our results.
Thanks.
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linky - it is not as simple as supplementing what you are deficient in. Some minerals can be antagonists to others.
That means that one mineral can keep other specific minerals low. If the mineral keeping some others low is not dealt with correctly then you can supplement till the end of time with little results.
It is like the bouncer at the bar having a grudge against you and never letting you in.
In my training I was taught that many health pros do not learn how to interpret hair tests correctly. It is not straightforward.
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We are working with a specialist on this. We are not just taking supplements arbitrarily.
Yes, it is quite complex; that's why we had all the testing done and are working with a doctor.
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Good ! I mentioned that to make sure you are getting it right and it sure sounds you are !
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Thanks, massman for your concern. Take care.
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