bcb1200
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Hi:
What multi-vitamins do people use? I am taking 1-a-day mens health (have been for yearS) along with Nature's Made Super B Complex.
Burrascano says LifePak for males under 40. I haven't found this but did find LifePak Nano which is uber pricey. $160 / month. My Doc says she doesn't think I need this as I have energy. But I want to take them as a precaution.
Also..waht about CoQ10? Dr. B recommends Researched Nutrionals, but I guess I need a Dr's note to buy. Same with NT-Factor. Any other brands?
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seekhelp
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I wouldn't take all Dr. B recommends as 'gold.' He's financially connected to one of these vitamin suppliers too!!
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sammy
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I like the MegaFood Essentials One Daily multivitamin. It is a whole food vitamin.
It costs about $27 for 90 tablets (a 3month supply!)
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sammy
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If you are looking to buy CoQ10 consider buying Ubiquinol instead. As we age it becomes harder for the body to convert CoQ10 to it's active form Ubiquinol.
I like the Healthy Origins Brand Ubiquinol. This is what I purchase for my mother (she is on a statin and has family hx of heart disease).
Depending on your needs, you can purchase 50mg-200mg soft gels. iherb's price for a 2mo supply of the 50mg soft gels is only $14.80
I should also add that I do not work for iherb.com, I just buy some (not all!) of my supplements from them.
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None. They made me feel bad and now after TBD remission, still make me feel bad. Most multi's, IMO, are a rip-off. Unless they're "whole" vitamins, they contain vitamin "parts" and fillers which cause allergic reactions.
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I do take CoQ10 for my heart and other supplements as well.
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Julian Whitaker... Forward Plus daily regimen
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I'll ditto the iHerb recommendation as a place to buy your supplements.
As for multis, I like AOR's MultiBasics, at a partial dose daily. The new versions have replaced folic acid with methylfolate, which should be a little safer. And they are one of the few (if any) multi's to include MK-4 (albeit at small doses). Also includes natural mixed carotenes, tocotrienols, etc. at dietary doses.
It is expensive, but not insanely expensive like the LifePak multi mentioned above.
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massman
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sammy I took a look at those vitamins.
There are some parts in them that are definitely fake. There are some whole foods.
I recommend Catalyn + Trace Minerals B12 from Standard Process. Your doc can get them for you.
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I notice you recommend the Standard Process vitamins sometimes, and am just curious as to why?
Looking at ingredients for the multi you recommend:
It includes bovine adrenal, bovine liver, bovine spleen and bovine kidney.
Why would someone want that in their multivitamin?
And although it claims it is from whole food sources, it also includes: ascorbic acid, cholecalciferol, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin A palmitate, and riboflavin.
So, to me, it simply looks like a typical multi, with vitamins in synthetic form, with odd things like some food extracts + bovine body parts included. I'm against megadosing vitamins, and feel most multis are poorly formulated in general (and not everyone even needs one), but I'd like to understand the rationale behind this one.
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MDW005
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Lemon-lyme... The multi's that I take are supposed to be very good. Dr whitaker's.
Can you see if they are what they are supposed to be? They are costly and hope I am not wasting my money.
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quote:Originally posted by MDW005: Lemon-lyme... The multi's that I take are supposed to be very good. Dr whitaker's.
Can you see if they are what they are supposed to be? They are costly and hope I am not wasting my money.
It appears overly expensive to me. If you wish to take it, I also suggest take a partial dose (1/3-1/2 dose daily). It's higher in E than I like (200 IU) and includes megadoses of Bs (1000+% of RDA) which I also dislike. It also has a lot of calcium, which is fine if you need calcium -- but if not, then it's just too much.
It does have Gamma E and some tocotrienols, so that's a plus.
But the phytonutrients in my opinion are a waste, as the doses are too small to matter anyway. Just eat berries and get tomatoes from diet instead. If you want cinnamon + fish oil, just take those separately.
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This is what I've been taking for about 6 years now
I like that it's got the complementary bed time multi as well - really helps with sleep.
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sammy
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Thanks massman. It's been awhile since I looked at the multivitamin content list. I used this brand in the past, switched to another cheaper one that I didn't like and switched back to this. I thought it was all derived from foods. Bummer.
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can you take ubiguinol with coq10?
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massman
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Lemon-lyme - not sure on some of your questions.
I think listing vit C a company may have to have ascorbic acid to legally call it C.
Not sure if they are listing them so the public will recognize them or not. I am pretty sure that you could call them + get better eplanations than mine.
If you do call could you post what they tell you + if it makes sense to you ? Thanks.
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Well, what I was asking is: why is the Standard process multi any different than any other multi? Besides the fact it includes bovine organ parts, that is -- and small amounts of vitamins.
Those vitamins listed: ascorbic acid, riboflavin, etc, are listed under ingredients. Meaning, they add those to the product. They aren't derived from food extracts or organs.
Since they are simply added synthetic vitamins, like every other vitamin maker uses, what advantage does this multi really have?
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randibear
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i use "alive" and get it at iherb.
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My LL PA recommended Nordic Berries....from Nordic Naturals. They are children's supplements....and very tasty little gum-drop sorta things. I love them!
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I take a whole food multi by New Chapter. I haven't looked at the ingredients lately, so I'm not sure where they rank against the MegaFood brand, which I think I used to take.
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New Chapter Whole food is pretty much the same thing as Megafood's multi.
All they do is feed vitamins to yeast, dry it, turn it into a tablet and put pictures of berries and fruit on the packaging. And include minuscule amounts of food extracts which really have little impact regarding health.
If they are stomach friendly for you and you like them, there isn't anything necessarily wrong it. Just, don't assume they are the same as real food -- very little difference between it and some common multivitamins.
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quote:Originally posted by randibear: can you take ubiguinol with coq10?
Yeah, but I'm not entirely sure I see a point to taking both.
Best way to figure out which to take probably is to get your blood levels measured, then just pick whatever is most cost effective to reach whatever serum level you want.
For those with heart issues (heart failure, etc), >2.5 serum is generally recommended.
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You recommended it, so was curious what your reason was. I thought maybe I missed some detail or benefit regarding its ingredients. But based on its ingredients, all I see are weird cow parts and regular vitamins added.
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massman
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Weird cow parts?
RNA / DNA factors of specific animal organs ?
Perhaps for specific reasons ?
Hmmmmm...?
Call 'em...ask 'em... can't be that tough ?
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Sorry, my mistake thinking you wanted to be helpful and discuss why you felt this particular multi was beneficial.
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quote:Originally posted by massman: Lemon I DO NOT KNOW.
How can I discuss something if I DO NOT KNOW ?
THAT is why I suggested you call.
I assumed you knew why you recommended the multi, since you... well... recommended it?
And I did call. Twice.
First time, I was put on hold, waited forever, and eventually hung up.
Second time, I got a support person, but when I said I was a private individual inquiring about a product (they ask if you are a doctor, patient, etc), she said she couldn't provide me with any answers regarding their own product. Any product questions would have to be answered by a health care provider only -- one who sells their products.
So... calling actually is tough. And any company that won't answer consumer questions is automatically shady in my opinion.
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I use Irwin Naturals. They contain herbs, and other alternative stuff as like licorice and other stuff I can't think of right now as well as vitamins and minerals and they are gel caps. Only $20 a month at my health food store.
Only problem is, they are big as horse pills and you have to take three a day.
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massman
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I agree that not answering public questions is pretty poor - the public is the ultimate consumer.
I have never got hung up on, though.
Will explore further. When I first started using nutrition in practice SP was the best a friend + I found.
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Llyme - how come you did not call a local provider that they would have given you the number for ?
I did talk to an OH rep for SP that I used to deal with a lot. I first called SP in Palmyra WI and they suggestes talking to the rep I already knew + if I did not get good enough answers then call the main office back.
So anyway, in some cases it is legal CYA. The FDA requires ascorbic acid in something to legally call it Vitamin C. Other "parts" listed are actually in foods and the parts can be isolated if some knucklehead wants to.
I say knucklehead as "scientists" when they study foods, supplements think they find the "active ingredient" that they think does the work. All the other naturally occurring factors + what I would call cofactors are said to do nothing, nada.
Not just my opinion as I have talked with people at the Linus Pauling Institute who told me that.
So I ask why are all those cofactors always there ? Since I never get an answer that makes sense that annoys me. Did God have nothing else to do the day he designed Vit. C ? Is that why all those parts are there ? Being goofy because he had nothing else to do that day ?
Never get good answers to that question either.
I have repeatedly suggested a book "The Real Truth About Vitamins and Antioxidants" by Judith DeCava. You may be able to contact a local DC, MD or ND that uses SP and ask them to get you or loan you a copy of that. To me a dry write but great info.
Sounds like you research + know a lot so you may appreciate it.
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Please tell me if you think I am not clear enough on the above post. I did ramble a bit.
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