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So I know I've read the info somewhere but I just can't find it now.
I'm terrified of getting a yeast infection. I take a probiotic and am trying to eat at least one serving of yogurt a day (hate the stuff) as well as cut down on sugar.
Is there anything else I can do to try and avoid getting a yeast infection while on the antibiotics?
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You can take oil of oregano drops every day- they are anti fungal- they work
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you can go to the ILADS website (ILADS.org), and download Dr. B's hints and treatnment guidelines. He talks about some things to avoid yeast.
Generally, no sugar, low carbohydrate diet.
Also, some abx are notorious for causing yeast problems. Flagyl (metronidazinole), biaxin (clarithryomyacin), and Doxycline can be problems. So, if you can find drugs in the same class as these, it si helpful. But sometimes you can't, and of course, if you are on IV, then no matter what abx you are on can cause problems, so being good about your diet is important there.
Also, some LLMDs have their patients take an antifungal (diflucan) once or twice a week, just to head off problems.
Good luck.
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My understand is Olive Leaf Extract is also great. I think OLE and OOO (Olive of Oregano) go hand-in-hand in fungal treatment.
Maybe someone better versed in this area could elaborate on my thoughts.
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- Oregano oil (a hot plant) can burn the mouth, throat and esophagus. Usually, it's in a liquid with a carrier oil and then it's directed to put a few drops in about 1/3 cup water.
Gel caps are best as they then open up after the tender tissue. However, the liquid does have its place if one does okay with it as it can help in the mouth and esophagus. Just start with just one drop in water and see how that goes. A gel cap would go hand in hand to offer more effort in the gut.
Olive leaf extract (a cold plant) will not burn. Usually in capsule form but also in some liquid extracts. Both have their place and I suggest getting both forms (liquid for mouth rinse, capsule for better gut and systemic power).
Start with a low dose as both oregano oil and OLE do cause die-off. Be sure to drink lots of water throughout the day.
One could combine Oregano Oil and OLE but I'd sure start with one at a time. Rotation may work better than combination but that seems an individual choice. Low and slow is the rule until one gets a feel for this.
Take either/both AWAY from probiotics and Florastor. As they are antifungal and also antiviral and antibacterial, they will also destroy friendly bacteria that costs a fortune. Just take at opposite times. Generally, Oregano or OLE can be taken near other abx (maybe an hour or so away) but ask your LLMD if you have questions about that.
Oregano oil is best with food (especially at first) until you know how your stomach does with it. Non-spicy food would help calm any burning and burp-back. -
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Keebler certainly is right about the burning caused by oil of oregano! I didn't know that the first time I took it and have shied away from it since.
Perhaps I'll try again using the above tips...
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- I can only do OLE. That kept candida away totally for me when I was on abx. Myrolea-B is what my ND recommended.
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From "The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook" (Tillotson, et.al.)
WHAT IT DOES: Oregano oil is pungent in taste, aromatic and warming. It penetrates into the system, breaks up congestion and kills microbes. Oregano leaf stimulates appetite and detoxifies food.
RATING: * Leaf: gold * Oil: red
SAFETY ISSUES: Do not use oil without diluting it. Do not exceed recommended dosage. Direct contact with oil to sensitive areas of skin, eye or mouth can cause severe burns.
From the library at Vitamin Research Products -- Many articles on Olive Leaf Extract with good 3rd party documentation and a list of sources at the end of each article.
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For comparison but tolerance (the hot/cold issue) is not necessarily addressed:
-------------- An Olive Leaf formula (that contains Terminalia chebula):
My ND (naturopathic doctor) recommended MYROLEA B.
Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas. As this is a combination formula, there are ingredients included to help the body with "clearing heat" and metabolizing toxins.
Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.
The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.
Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.
SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003
Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .
. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.
Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.
In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.
. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,
. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."
It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."
- full article at link above.
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Detail from two of the most reputable sources of OLE:
Die-off effects -- Olive leaf use causes the death of microbes. The liver, kidneys, intestines and skin are therefore tested to their limits, to deal with, and remove them. This causes Herxheimers Reaction, which can have a variety of symptoms, but basically makes one feel ill or under the weather due to a treatment's effect upon the body.
Thus, "die-off," referred to in medicine as the "Herxheimer reaction," occurs when the olive leaf components kills large numbers of harmful germs rather quickly. Then, the patient's membranes absorb toxic products from these dead microorganisms.
The large amount of foreign antigens triggers an increasing immune response, in addition to interfering with usual biochemical processes, and these immune effects can temporarily worsen a person's symptoms. . . .
Symptoms The symptoms include fatigue, diarrhea, muscle and joint pains, headaches, rashes, flu-like symptoms and even pimples.
These symptoms indicate that the herb is working and that a range of microbes and toxins have been eliminated and are in the process of being removed from your system. These symptoms can be reduced by increasing your fluid intake - but if they persist, reduce the dosage.
. . . . See details at link:
* Safety Precautions and * Known Drug Interactions
Side Effects: Olive leaves have been used safely for thousands of years. The only known side-effect is the possibility of a Herxheimer reaction, an allergic response caused by the rapid die-off of fungi that release toxins which may temporarily cause a brief allergic reaction, lasting for several days. -
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quote:Originally posted by kissygoose: I take a probiotic and am trying to eat at least one serving of yogurt a day (hate the stuff) as well as cut down on sugar.
Hi, kissygoose. Have hope! Kefir is great! I enjoy "SO Delicious Strawberry Coconut Milk Kefir." Tastes like a milkshake! Look in your local health food store and/or grocery stores for kefir with (comparatively) low sugar content. (It's refrigerated near yogurt.) Drink just 4 oz/day.
Olive leaf extract helps heal microbial infections and wild oregano oil can kill fungi. Try rotating those along with pau d'arco capsules, caprylic acid (antifungal), and clove tea. All five offer benefits. Be cautious not to over-use one item now if you don't even have a yeast infection yet.
Aloe vera juice is helpful, too.
Eating plenty of vegetables and gluten-free grains (brown rice, millet, quinoa) will put you on the right track. Think high-fiber in making selections. Get ground flaxseed to sprinkle on salads and mix into yogurt. Oat bran is excellent for breakfast.
Really work to eliminate sugars now that you've already cut back. No fruit either. (Apples, blueberries and pears are best if you must have fruit.) Candida and the Lyme Bb both love glucose. Don't entertain them!
You'll do best if you eat low-fat protein with every meal & snack. If you can't resist indulging in carbs, try to limit carbs at breakfast more than any other meal so you can start your day off in better balance.
I'm not a healthcare professional, just a Lymie. Best wishes, Smile
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