RZR
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I took diflucan for 30 days through the middle of April. In May, I took it twice a week. My gyno said I have the worse yeast infection they have tested. He thinks it has become resistant to diflucan. What can I do?
Gynco prescribed Butoconazole cream. I am afraid yeast is in my bloodstream though. Do I need to completely stop all abx treatment and try to get yeast under control? My diet has been completely clean for 2 months.
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I took Diflucan daily for a year w/Mino to treat lyme. Twice a week is nothing. I took 1oomg 2X a day.
Why do mainstream doctors undertreat everything? That just ticks me off. Then they'll say it's "resistant" cause it doesn't cure w/ 8 pills over the course of a month.
Talk to your LLMD & ask for help for the yeast.
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I had the best success getting rid of the yeast with Oil of Oregano liquid. I just purchased some more.
I don't think you are going to be able to get the yeast under control until you stop the abx. You can try multiple herbals at the same time, while still taking the diflucan.
Oh and have you tested for parasites? My LLMD said that parasites could be causing the stubborn yeast issues. Maybe you could look into that.
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Have you ever tried Boric Acid suppositories? I make my own for the vaginal yeast. You insert them, you don't ingest them. I suffered with yeast infections for years. Haven't had one since I started the boric acid..and I am on abx so I would guess it is working well.
It works by making the vaginal environment acidic, and yeast can't grow in acidic environments.
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I would do what BackinOlf said and also consider herbal treatments.... all at the same time as going off abx for at least a month.. and
TAKING 200MG OF DIFLUCAN EVERY DAY FOR AT LEAST 2 MONTHS.
Also consider taking Nystatin daily during the same time.
I agree that you are being undertreated.
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RZR
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My LLMD said to stop all abx and treat for 20 days. Hopefully, that may be enough. I just hate stopping abx when I was about to treat bart.
Where can I buy more Diflucan without a script? My LLMD usually prescribes only 10 pills at a time. My co-pay is the same whether I get 10 pills or 100 pills. I don't understand why doctors act like Diflucan is gold or something!
My LLMD never prescribes Nystatin pills. He has given me liquid before. I will ask after finishing the Diflucan...hate to call him back right now.
Would Nystatin pills plus Diflucan be overkill?
I will get some oil or oregano.
I tried boric acid suppositories in the past, but seems that they made me irritated. My gyno called in Butoconazole cream to use for a couple of weeks.
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You should ask about Sporanox. You may have more than just Candida. Sporanox addresses all fungal issues as I understand it.
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Did your gyn doc run a culture to see what strain of yeast you might have? Certain forms are resistant to Diflucan and Nystatin. You may need to try another antifungal like Sporonix, Vefend, Posaconazole.
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please be very careful. i don't mean to scare you but have you been tested for systemic yeast?
this is just one of the complications my mom had in the hospital before she died. they gave her antibiotics and didn't treat her for yeast. it went systemic and was a large reason she died.
get it checked out.
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What dose of Diflucan were you taking? Usually it starts with 400 mg/day for a few days then 200 mg/day for 2 months. You may have a different strain of yeast that does not respond to Diflucan, best to get it cultured and a sensitivity test run for anti-fungal drugs to see what will work for your specific case. Nystatin and Diflucan can be taken together if needed. Diflucan usually overrides what Nystatin does though since it is absorbed and Nystatin is not. Have you tried garlic and tea tree oil? Make sure you are not eating any sugar and I would stop the antibiotics for awhile and increase your probiotics. Be careful of FLorastor in this case it could cause a fungal overgrowth.
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quote:Originally posted by randibear: please be very careful. i don't mean to scare you but have you been tested for systemic yeast?
this is just one of the complications my mom had in the hospital before she died. they gave her antibiotics and didn't treat her for yeast. it went systemic and was a large reason she died.
get it checked out.
I am so sorry about your mom.
No, I have not been checked for systemic yeast. Would a regular PCP run the test? It seems like they don't even believe in systemic yeast.
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MANY people on this board have systemic yeast. I have had it many times.
I took Nystatin every day I was on abx. I took Diflucan if the yeast got out of hand.. usually happened due to my DIET!
Also, make sure you are not eating any sugar-free candies or cookies.
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RZR
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I have only been given 200mg for 20 days. My LLMD has never given me more than 10 pills at a time. I got some myself and took them a couple months ago for 30 days.
I get yeast so easy, I don't know how I will ever get through abx treatment.
I had no idea that Florastor could cause fungal overgrowth.
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As long as we are heavy metal toxic, the body will create fungi in order to survive the toxicity which would otherwise kill us. The disadvantge is that fungi also has a lifecycle, poos and pees and dies and grows, which causes an added burden to an already overburdened body. So there is little choice but detox heavy metals. No anti-yeast diet and medications will change that fact.
Take care.
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Please do some research on the "Schardt Protocol" There are a couple of threads on the board that have recently discussed this.
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My wife had constant problems with yeast off and on. Nothing seemed to work for her until she was told about Yeast Ease:
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What gigi said
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When I had bad yeast due to abx, and Diflucan wasn't helping (plus, my LLMD wouldn't give me enough either---only a few days a month!), Threelac did the trick. There's also Fivelac. It's a lactic acid yeast powder that eats Candida.
Unfortunately, it's a MLM, which I hate. But the product is good (I'm not selling it). I believe that Theralac may be similar (not sure about that). But that is supposed to be very good, and not MLM.
There are many remedies for yeast, and all the above info is good.
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I had decades of fungal infections, yeast infections, very chronic.
True: candida infections can kill.
If there's no cleaning from heavy metals and probably other toxins, no way to get rid of excess of candida FOR GOOD.
Many products will help and put it dormant for a while. I tried many, many are excellent. But once the milieu is bad, I kept having relapses.
Candida infections are very stubborn, even more than lyme, in my experience.
You can add whatever you want, loads of high quality and expensive probiotics, 'hi-tech' enzymes, candida killers (ingested, inserted, rubbed)... they all help, but I was slave of these things forever. And still kept relapsing.
Very strict diet, no cheating, is essential.
The most important place to concentrate on is not on the focal of symptoms (like skin, vagina, nail, tongue) but on the gut.
I learned that only too late.
Treating the gut will help already quite a lot, in my experience. It is there that they reproduce and go into blood, lymph, skin, mouth, elsewhere.
I didn't have clear gut symptoms until I used a strong candida killer (exmykehl).
First quick gut cleansing solution is chlorella in higher doses. There are excellent suppositories made by Sanum (exmykehl) to kill candida strains there. And loads of other good products for killing, as mentioned in other posts. My favorite ones are still Sanum products, as they deal with haptens too.
From there on, one can then move to try to do a thorough heavy metal detoxification in the whole body.
Killing candida causes herxes, even worse than borrelia herxes.
While my lyme is dormant and didn't come back in the last 12 months, my candida is also dormant but only for the last 5 months.
I'm telling that not to scare you, but so that people take candida infections seriously. As it can kill, it is not to be taken lightly.
Candida also produces biofilms. I suffered from a strain that was 'champion' of biofilms, called candida parapsilosis. It was tough to get rid of it. Now the strain that keeps coming back is cand. albicans.
I've been doing heavy metal detox for the last 4 years. I'm still on that (KPU and another treatment similar to AI). Every year since I started on heavy metal chelation, my skin infection gets smaller, for less number of months a year.
This year, I still didn't have it on skin, but I still got it in my gut (in January). So definitively, after suffering for about 2 decades with skin infection every single year for more than 6 months a year, this is a great improvement. I think I owe that greatly to long term heavy metal detox.
I thank Gigi for the info she provided in the past!
short term solutions might be good for some people. But when the infection gets chronic, no way to REALLY get rid of it using short term solutions.
If one wants to be treatment free, free of anti candida diet, free of symptoms, after having got it chronic once, I can't see other way than thorough detoxing.
Of course, this is only my opinion based on own experience.
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Ketoconazole is used when diflucan is proven ineffective.
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RZR
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Lots of good info...thanks to all.
One of my main problems is I cannot even tell I have candida other than a white tongue.
I do have some other problems that I thought were bart, but maybe they are candida-related. I have sore feet, sore hips, ears feeling full, and neuropathy. How will I ever know if it's lyme related or candida?
What kind of test do I need to check for systemic yeast and who could run it?
At this point, I just want to give up on lyme and yeast. I feel like I am losing the battle.
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RZR
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quote:Originally posted by Rumigirl: When I had bad yeast due to abx, and Diflucan wasn't helping (plus, my LLMD wouldn't give me enough either---only a few days a month!), Threelac did the trick. There's also Fivelac. It's a lactic acid yeast powder that eats Candida.
Unfortunately, it's a MLM, which I hate. But the product is good (I'm not selling it). I believe that Theralac may be similar (not sure about that). But that is supposed to be very good, and not MLM.
There are many remedies for yeast, and all the above info is good.
What is a MLM? Sounds like threelac or fivelac may be worth a try.
I now take VSL #3 DS, 1/2 packet AM & 1/2 PM, which gives a total of 900 billion.
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