richedie
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Thanks! Do they sell a product for Bartonella treatment or do they only carry the core?? The core is only for Lyme, right?
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canefan17
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They sell knotweed and stephania. Bothh have effects on bart.
The core is generally for Lyme and Bart. Cryptolepsis or Art is for babs.
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richedie
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I wonder if it is OK for me to take those with ABX!?
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Marz
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I agree with Canefan that I wish they didn't include andrographis.
I just got my bottle of greendragon in the mail yesterday.
I've added andrographis about a week ago because I found a bottle I hadn't used from a while back.
I think I've muddied the waters because I'm getting symptoms back that had gone away while on the individual herbs of the core protocol that my LLMD told me to take.
I see her Monday and wonder if she'll be upset that I've added andro.
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canefan17
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Marz,
That's awesome you go the Core Protocol.
It's been GREAT so far.
When I got to 3 caps, 4x's/day I felt 95%-100% on most days. (granted the first couple weeks was rough, flu-like stuff)
It wasn't until I got to 6 caps, 4x's/day that Andrographis started kickin my ***(tired, dizzy, low BP, heart palps)
I've backed down to 3 caps today. And am either gonna stay on that dosage or increase it EXTREMELY SLOW.
Buhner has said before that some people only need 1 cap of each 3-4 times per day. (And I treated with abx's for 9 months. So it's very likely I don't need the maximum dosage)
But Marz... these herbs do work. Androgrphis absolutely hits stuff too (microbes, parasites, lyme, etc etc)
Goodluck and shoot me a PM if you have questions. I'm still learning it all myself.
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Keebler
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- Marz,
The andrographis may be redundant for you, repeating what something else is supposed to do that you are already taking.
Or it may throw out of balance what your doctor had intended. Yes, it can be a wonderful help (the very best thing I've taken EVER, EVER).
However, it is contraindicated for others. For one poster here whom I respect, she has experienced seizures when on it.
My reaction is totally opposite. The first couple months it was a rough ride.
I do great on it and it's been the very best anti-seizure helper for me. It also allows for deep sleep. It has decreased edema tremendously. But I am very sleepy on it during the day but, recently went off it to try to get some things done and - well, my brain just can't wake up to do certain tasks without it, either.
While I say I do great on it, that does not mean I feel good. I never feel good. But, I can see and sense value and how it still helps - even if I don't feel good. With an inner ear problem, I just have to accept vertigo and nausea for a while longer yet.
Just be honest with your doctor about your own adjustments and I'm sure she will understand your desire to speed things up. But, for whatever one takes andrographis for - it is a calming herb. It also will make you go to the bathroom - a lot - as it helps to decrease edema (swelling). It can be rough on the stomach.
It may not be so that it brought back symptoms as some of the effects are just integral to its nature - and why it's usually never taken alone. And a little goes a long way.
Good luck as you get the wrinkles all ironed out. -
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Marz
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Keebler, at first I felt like I was going to black out when I got out of bed in the morning. Maybe due to it's diuretic effect? Blood pressure was low too.
So effects are similar to yours canefan.
That doesn't happen anymore though, so I think I've adjusted to it. Maybe drinking more water helped.
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