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I need advice from anyone that may know although there may not be an answer to my problem.

I have multiple food allergies/sensitivities. The things that showed up on my test were:

Milk
Eggs
Soy
Turkey
Gluten
Shrimp
Yogurt
Walnuts

...and some other stuff I can't remember. I also suspect corn and potatoes.

I read that someone with a lot of food sensitivities should rotate the remaining foods every 4-5 days or so.

Well, what about someone in my position? There's not really enough foods left to space them out every 4-5 days. If I eat the remaining foods too often supposedly I'll develop allergies to them as well and I believe that b/c the things I tested positive for were things I ate a lot. On top of that I'm not supposed to have sugar due to Candida and I have difficulty digesting raw foods like fruits and veggies.

I have terrible heartburn steadily for 6 mos. now and on and off before that for about a year. I'm fearing pancreatitis and am going through some tests but read that even if tests are negative that doesn't rule it out. It seemed to start a year and a half ago when I had a couple of drinks. Now I can't have even a sip of alcohol without pain and I haven't even tried in a very long time.

Help! I don't know what to eat and am taking Prevacid, Alka Seltzer, Marshmallow Root and Tums for my stomach and still have heartburn. I have some "GastroMend HP" by Designs for Health on hand but I don't know if it's good b/c it smells funky. I want to try it b/c it has Mastic Gum in it which is supposed to be good for healing the gut. Does anyone know if that product is supposed to smell funky?

I also have/had (don't know if still do) Klebsiella and Candida. Most meds/supplements hurt my stomach though so don't know what to take as Grapefruit Seed Extract would make sense for Candida and digestive enzymes would make sense right now too but both hurt my stomach.

HELP!

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Access www.naet.com and look for practitioners in MA that test for allergies then eliminate them.

After successful NAET you can eat the food.

Maybe it should be called allergies-b-gone !

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massman, Thanks for that info. I've looked into it a little. I am a huge skeptic. I'm skeptical of certain practices I've read about or witnessed first hand that don't seem to have any science to back them up. This seems to be one of them. Some others that come to mind for me are Reiki, Biophoton treatment, and muscle testing.

I'm not saying that they don't work as from what I understand they work wonders for many people. I even had my primary care doctor who I would consider mainstream and conventional tell me that she believes in Reiki.

I just feel that if I spent any money on these treatments that I don't understand and they didn't work I'd hate myself. I'd have to understand exactly how they work and it doesn't seem that that can really be explained at all and backed up by science at all. Are they more of a spiritual thing? Maybe I need to get more in touch with my spiritual side.

Again, it's not that I don't believe they work, I just don't understand them and can't seem to get enough info about them to get to a level of understanding to make me confident about them and make me a believer.

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Laura, just don't go then for that treatment. It's not for you!

The only allergy treatment then is avoidance. In my experience with lyme, the sicker I was, the more allergies I KEPT developing, until I could eat very few things. But I wonder if I kept sick, if I could get allergic to everything.

Some people in the board suffer from MCS and some are allergic to EVERYTHING. There was a man that tested that in a specilized clinic, and he couldn't eat anything.

He was in the Buhner forum. His blood tests were showing antibodies to everything he ate. Absolutely everything. A very serious case of MCS.

I wouldn't wait my brain to understand a treatment to try it as much as I wouldn't wait my brain to understand how a computer works to use a computer.

But as I told you, if you got a blockage on the understanding, the treatment is possibly not for you.

You wouldn't get mad at a certain abx if it didn't work, even if you understand how it works, would you?

Some people are just stuck for some reason. My father in law refuses to use a computer because he can't understand how it works, and I think I must respect that.

We speak very little on the phone as we live continents apart, because of that. It would be so easy if he just bought a computer and we could talk for very low fees, but he's an electrical technician and refuses to touch a computer because he can't understand it.

I'm more like the Chinese. If it works, why not trying? A person doensn't need to be an engineer to drive a car, right? And the car can still be driven.

No one knows how the immune system really works, and all doctors still prescribe remedies within their limited knowledge.

Possibly rotation of food is a good idea then.

Naet is costly. I would try the AI treatment instead. Possibly cheaper and more efficient long term. Naet treatments in my experience died out after a while. The treatments were very effective short term, but after a few weeks / months, some allergies returned and needed to be re-treated.

I guess if I had few allergies, I would do Naet again. But as I had many during lyme, Naet didn't treat the origin of the problem but just canceled each allergy, it felt like shifting allergies from one to another. But it can be very useful sometimes, when you need an allergic reaction to go down...

Anyway. I hope the rotation will work for you. If it does, post here as it would be interesting for others to know.

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OK, sorry I suggested it.

One question.

When let's say a dog, dies, what is gone first ?
The energy or the chemistry ?

So what does the body really run on ?

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quote:
Originally posted by laura j:
There's not really enough foods left to space them out every 4-5 days. If I eat the remaining foods too often supposedly I'll develop allergies to them as well and I believe that b/c the things I tested positive for were things I ate a lot. On top of that I'm not supposed to have sugar due to Candida and I have difficulty digesting raw foods like fruits and veggies.

I have terrible heartburn steadily for 6 mos...
[snip]
...seemed to start a year and a half ago when I had a couple of drinks. Now I can't have even a sip of alcohol without pain and I haven't even tried in a very long time.

Help! I don't know what to eat and am taking Prevacid, Alka Seltzer, Marshmallow Root and Tums for my stomach and still have heartburn. I have some "GastroMend HP" by Designs for Health on hand but I don't know if it's good b/c it smells funky...

Hi, Laura.
I have some ideas for you, but note i am NOT a healthcare professional.

Please try to wean yourself off Prevacid ASAP. If you do a search on the side effects, you may see it'll do you more harm than good.

Try drinking aloe vera juice several times/day to soothe your GI tract. Get yummy, chewable Papaya extract to help with digestion. Buy coconut kefir from your local health food store and have a small amount every day.

If you lightly steam veggies, you may find them easier to digest. Try seasoning with Bragg Liquid Aminos and lemon juice for healthy flavor.

It's wise for most adults to eliminate dairy and wheat, so your not alone there.

Sounds like you can still eat brown rice, quinoa, buckwheat kasha, millet, and oat bran, so that gives you five grains to rotate! Perfect. [Smile] I think you only need four varieties of grain, then begin again on day five to rotate safely. Chin up, Lymie friend! Many people do well eating these five grains.

It's true that people are often allergic to the foods they crave and over-indulge in (like drinking WAY too much milk). A rotation diet is important.

I'm gonna suggest an old book by a nutritionist that got me on the road to better health. I'm sure there are numerous newer ones out, but this is the book that got me off cow's milk and into rice milk:
* Gary Null's Good Food, Good Mood: Treating Your Hidden Allergies has been valuable for me and several friends. He shares "true stories" that stick with me and good (easy!) recipes my friends & I enjoy.

Fruit -- limit your intake to avoid feeding yeast. Blueberries, lemon, lime, pears, and plums may be you whole list for a few months. Tart apples, like Granny Smith, are generally very healthy, but may cause belching.

No alcohol. [tsk] (See pg 27 in Burrascano's guidelines!) It'll be easy to give up once you start feeling better on a consistent healthy diet with fewer meds. imho, Prevacid is evil! Soon you can say goodbye to Alka Seltzer, too.

Sounds like you can still enjoy deep-water fish, almonds, sunflower seeds, lots of veggies... Can you have pecans? Do avoid peanuts. They harbor mold and many are allergic to them.

Wishing you well,
Smile

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Have you been tested for H-Pylori?

If you have an allergy to gluten, corn and potatoes would be out also.

To help rebuild the lining of your gut, try SuperCritical Omega 7 made by New Chapter. You can get it at any Vitamin Shoppe or a zillion places on the web. Start with 2 before lunch and 2 before dinner for a couple days. You will see a difference in days. It was a life saver for me, and I've recommended it to a lot of other people with digestive issues.

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massman, please don't "be sorry" you suggested it. I'm the one with the mental block that can't understand these things. Like I said, that doesn't mean there isn't something to them. I'm broke and I would have to develop more faith in them to try them. Maybe that will come. Brussels had very good points. I don't understand how computers and cars work but I still use them! LOL! Thanks Brussels for that enlightenment!

Remember to Smile, THANK YOU! You gave me some very good ideas! That's exactly what I needed was someone to spell it out for me!!! I tried regular Kefir and then realized "duh, it's made from milk". I didn't know they made coconut kefir. What about Kombucha? I read somewhere that it may not be good for some people with chronic illness, immune problems or autoimmune problems.

lymeinhell, I have been tested for H. Pylori many times and always negative. I had no idea that if I'm sensitive to gluten that I can't have potatoes and corn either!!!!!! Makes total sense now as I've been suspecting for awhile now that I have bad reactions to potatoes and corn!!!! I will also look into the SuperCritical Omega 7! Thanks!

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Here's a question: If I'm allergic to yogurt, am I allergic to probiotics?
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laura,

My food sensitivities/allergies are quite brutal as well, and have the same difficulties with candida or whatnot, and digesting raw vegetables.

I've taken some blood allergy test results, and seen them change over time in ways completely inconsistent with the story of eating them develops allergies. I really think those tests are almost useless.

I really have found the testing done by NAET practitioners, and similar energy medicine people, to be much more useful in predicting response. I have benefited greatly from NAET, for food allergy treatments and otherwise. However, the allergies have kept coming back. So, for me, the allergy removal really is not permanent. It's a lot of time and money for temporary removal. Maybe I'll do again once I get the immune system calmed down, and I really hope IVIG can help with that.

Are you on antifungals. You might greatly benefit from very high doses of nystatin. I gradually worked up to 15,000,000 units per day (5,000,000 per meal), and it helped a real lot with the acid reflux and all that.

I have tried that rotation diet stuff religiously for a while. It was useless for me, what a waste of time it was. My sense is the problem is more just immune system gone crazy and all these clever ideas all these people have for us might work for some people, but we're too far messed up for that to have much lasting impact.

If your esophagus is hurting from the reflux, I have benefited from the Xymogen product GlutAloeMine in helping heal, but true healing never occurred until I added nystatin.

As far as what to eat, I eat a lot of raw nuts that I soak and then put through a Champion Juicer, to kind of turn it into pulp/cream, something my body will have an easier time digesting. The grains and dried beans can be really tough with the candida issues. Perhaps meat is an option for you, I am a vegan so I avoid that for other reasons, but that might work better for you than the grains and beans, as long as you don't get too much. Believe me, I know, it's tough figuring out what to eat in this position.

Hope that helps.

Michael

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quote:
If I'm allergic to yogurt, am I allergic to probiotics?
Not likely.

It's most likely the sugar in the yogurt giving you grief. Some brands pack as much as 25mg of sugar per serving. And the ones with aspertame are even scarier.

Pretty much go by the food rule 'If it's white, it ain't right'.

The H Pylori was just a thought - (I believe I had it and unknowingly treated it with Levaquin when I got sick again in 2003. The heartburn was just awful and I had it for about 8 years!!!)

Here's a link explaining New Chapter Supercritical Omega 7. Worth every penny!!
http://www.newchapter.com/products/sc-omega-7

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Is this too scary a question to answer ?

Or too difficult ?

When let's say a dog, dies, what is gone first ?
The energy or the chemistry ?

So what does the body really run on ?
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lymeinhell, Why do potatoes and corn have to be avoided if someone is allergic to gluten? I'm finding potatoes and corn are ingredients in a lot of gluten free foods.

massman, wish I knew the answer to that question. I think that is something no one knows for sure. Actually, come to think of it I believe the answer is probably chemistry is gone first. I get your point.

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Depends on what you are allergic to in the yogurt.

If you have a true dairy allergy then be sure to take a probiotic that is dairy free.

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This is from the published study by Allergie Immun they did in 2006. I posted that last year on the Allergie Immun Thread running here. It is difficult to copy because it is all published in columnar form. I have tried. Their overall success rate is around 78%. Unlike my personal experience with NAET ten years ago, AI is permanent and very life-changing.

Taken from AI's study that was done in 2005/06 (about 200 people with different listing all the categories of problems for which people took the drop therapy).

For instance, Hayfever, aka pollen allergy, inhalation allergy, sneezing attacks, chronic runny nose:

Total of 68 took the therapy
26 male, 42 female

When done to completion - usually within several months depending on age, etc.

Of the 68 total - 47 had no longer any symptoms
18 of the 26 male no longer had any problem
29 of the 42 female no longer had any problem

Of the 68 total - 14 had partial symptoms remaining
10 of the female had had partial symptoms remaining
4 of the male had partial symptoms remaining

Of the 68 total - 7 had no change
3 of the female had no change
4 of the male had no change

This means that in the Hayfever category:

Of the total 68 ---- 69.12% no symptoms left
of the total 42 women ---- 69.05% had no symptoms left
Of the total 26 male --- 69.23% had no symptoms left

Wheat Allergy: In that study, 5 people of the 6 with wheat allergy, 5 were totally free.

Gluten Intolerance: Same study, 6 people with gluten intolerance, 5 were totally cleared and 1 partially.

While the above were treated for these specifics, many other problems/ dysregulations/ errors in the system were improved within the same therapy.

As indicated on their website, AI will send you the study if you ask for it. The study covers many different problem areas, from bad back to shortness of breath, etc. etc.

Among the "asthma" sufferers, as displayed in the same study I mentioned above, there were 37 persons. 28 no longer suffered from asthma after the PSP therapy (drops); 5 still had partial symptoms left, and 4 had no improvement. That is a 75.68% effectiveness of the therapy if done to conclusion, i.e. it is continued until no errors or dysregulations are found in the DNA or symptoms are gone.

It is an amazing therapy if you stick with it. Young people manage to sail through it very quickly. Our son at 40 has great benefits. For us older folk, who had many years to brush things under the rug or get treatments and manmade medicines the body did not know what to do with thus burdening the system even more, it will take longer. Wheat/gluten/gliadin intolerance and the thousands of chemicals are among the worst offenders if the body does not recognize them for what they are. Good food or toxins.

Correcting the polarities is all it is, so that the body is able to work with the correct "information".

Just 15 drops of informed water.

Take care.

The website is www.allergie-immun.de (English version plus English links)

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"Correcting the polarities is all it is"

and that is..... e-n-e-r-g-y !

Thanks, Gigi.

Why is it so difficult for many to understand that energy is at the base of everything ?
That is a toughie for those chem engineers to deal with [Cool]

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massman,

I understand that energy is at the base of everything. The part I can't sort out is how it can be manipulated. I'm going to try to broaden my horizons with that as it doesn't appear that I will be able to treat w/abx anymore and I'm not done treating so I want to look into biophoton treatment a bit more.

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Massman, Because we have been brought up to respect the allknowing allmighty white coat who gives away pharma samples and a lollipop! We need to be plugged into the proper circuits -- you can give your vacuum cleaner brandnew parts (supplements) -- if it is not plugged in, it still won't work.

Take care.

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laura - "manipulation" is NOT what is being done.
Unless you look at things that way.

Thanks Gigi. I have always wondered why so many find it so easy to love the chemical part yet about run screaming and clawing from the energy part.

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massman,

I want to understand. Are there any links you can share that can help explain in greater detail how it all works? Everything I've found is vague.

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Can "polarities be corrected" in someone with a damaged nervous system if the thing that damaged the nervous system in the first place is still present?
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I appreciate this thread. I've developed so many allergies and sensivities over the past 9 years of Lyme (didn't know I had Lyme until 2 years ago) that all I eat now is literally steamed veggies, poultry, fish, olive oil, and sea salt. I don't rotate, because there's nothing to rotate. All I know is that if I stick to that diet, my bowels work the way they're supposed to.

I wish I had some more advice to offer on this. I'm exploring it all myself. I share your skepticism with energy healing modalities, because they've never worked for me. Anyway, just wanted to say I'm in the same boat. I wish you luck!

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One thing I'll say is that I know someone with this issue who was helped a lot by making her own kefir. You can order grains online, just google "kefir grains". Her allergies made a big turnaround. Unfortunately, my stomach couldn't handle the kefir. You might be lucky though. That stuff is loaded with probiotics. VERY IMPORTANT to keep it sterile though, if you make it, so it doesn't grow things like C. diff.
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Gigi,

I'm interested, but not able to find the english from the link you gave. Can you explain? Thanks.

Michael

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laura I feel some polarities can be reversed.

A friend and I used to treat allergis on patients we had and would essentially reinforce the treatment with homeopathics.

Those worked well.

We as a society have pretty much been programmed to believe totally in chemicals (drugs) and "science" that "proves" it.

Much of the rest of the world does and did not run this way. I feel it is a guy thing so we can say and sort of feel we are the best.

Since we are pretty much unfamiliar with energy based anything many feel it can't be real. And many really seem frightened by it. We have been TAUGHT to be afraid of unfamiliar things. At least most of us have.

I mean if you have kids, especially when they are little, are those feelings you have about them really just based on logic ?

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Gigi,

I'm interested, but not able to find the english from the link you gave. Can you explain? Thanks.

Michael

Michael, www.allergie-immun.de is the link and
when you get to the home page, click on English Version. Once you get to the English text, you will find some links that you should also read.

Or use Google as a translating engine anywhere on their site.

A little work, but well worth it.

Take care.

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quote:
Originally posted by laura j:
didn't know they made coconut kefir. What about Kombucha?
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I had no idea that if I'm sensitive to gluten that I can't have potatoes and corn either!!!!!! Makes total sense now as I've been suspecting for awhile now that I have bad reactions to potatoes and corn

Hi, Laura J. I'm glad several people are coming thru with ideas for you.

I love coconut kefir! [lick]
I don't know kombucha.

Corn and potatoes ARE gluten-free, but many people have allergies to corn. Corn & white potatoes are both very starchy, so are best avoided or eaten in limited quantities.

Here's a link to a thorough list of gluten-free grains & flours:
http://www.csaceliacs.org/gluten_grains.php

If you eat corn or potatoes sometimes, be sure to pair them with a high-quality protein source to slow down the insulin reaction.

I've stopped buying corn & potatoes. I just eat them now & then if someone else makes a meal for me with them included.

I do eat organic popcorn as an evening snack sometimes. Maybe a couple times a month. ymmv.

As you watch your food intake more carefully now, you'll find which foods keep you feeling happy and which foods drag you down or set off your bowels.

The Candida Control Cookbook by Gail Burton is great resource, too.

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I saw Dr. K. today on an after hours friendly basis. He told me that he is no longer allergic to wheat, after having suffered from it most of his life. This came about during the first three bottles of doing the Allergie Immun therapy.

He also told me that he is recommending to patients where he finds an autoimmune problem to do the Allergie Immun therapy because a major problem is thereby being eliminated.

I am of course delighted to hear when he says he can now sleep again like he has never slept in many years and that his wheat problems are gone.
I have known him as a human being for 12 years and always wished that the man could get a good night's sleep because he literally works all day and late into the night.

I thought this would entice some people to pay attention to what I have been posting about Allergie Immun. It's all right to ignore it too. We all have a choice.

Take care.


(and no, I don't get paid by anyone for promoting this fantastic therapy. I just know that it works, and to know that it works for others besides me is great.)

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