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jwall
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I am getting a little worried. 2nd round of antibiotics. 3 weeks on, 1 week off and now I'm 2 days into the 1st week again (so not even 4 full weeks of antibiotics yet).

I maybe have noticed slight improvement in my balance and ear symptoms (it seems to come and go now), but the pain has increased significantly and in new places that I didn't have it before like both of my knees. My cognitive symptoms seem to be getting a little better, but then it seems to come and go as well.

My spine has burning pain! I am getting discouraged.

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It took me over a year to really see anything.
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jwall, I don't know how long you've been sick. That can make a difference sometimes. Some people have to go at it for months to years to get a foothold.

If you see improvement in under 2 mos., you'll be one of the lucky ones.

Hang in there. Many here have been there before. I wish there were a 24/hr lyme extraction protocol but sadly there is not [Smile]

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jwall
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wow, a year. I guess I need to be patient then. Were you on IV during that year?
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took me 3 years to see improvement. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I think it depends on how long you have been ill and how agressive your tx is. best of luck
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My neuro. symptoms started 1.5 years ago. I wasn't diagnosed until 2 months ago, so I think I have a long road ahead of me.

Will IV help me improve more quickly?

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It took me about five months to BEGIN to see improvement and that was on a Bicillin/Biaxin combo. I had gone undiagnosed at least twelve years.
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That some of your symptoms appear to be worsening could be a good sign too. Maybe you're herxing. It does not necessarily mean that you're getting worse. Let us know how things go.

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but, would herxing be non-stop - like constant burning pain in my spine? And I feel so much worse. I was at least getting by before abx and going places/doing things (but not very well). Now I would like to stay in bed all day if I could, but I have 2 little boys to take care of. I should look at this as a good sign I suppose.

Thanks everyone. I will keep you posted. I am meeting with Dr. J in DC next week for the first time.

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Well, you have just initiated treatment (after being sick for over a year) so depending on the body's bug load you could conceivably be experiencing some prolonged tough herxes...

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Yes, herxing can be nonstop for a long while... at least it was for me.

Which med are you on? I think my spine pain was related to babesia and babesia meds causing a herx. UGH!

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I am on doxy, zithromax, and flagyl. I pulse flagyl every 3rd week for 3 days. that about killed me last time and am not looking forward to it again!!!!

does zithromax kill babesia? I'm not sure I have babesia because I never sweat. I do get chills though.

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I got treated within 10 weeks of my tick bite.

I was on a low dose of Ceftin for 3 months, and saw some improvement during the 3rd month, but relapsed immediately 2 days after stopping the drug.

Then I saw an LLMD and started doxy, and had a 10-day herx starting on day 3, then felt worse than I had been and stayed that way for the next 4 months.

After 3 months of doxy, I added Biaxin. When I had been on both for about 6 weeks, I began to see signs of improvement--good days interspersed with the bad ones. That is still going on 2 months later.

I thought that because I caught it early, and because my symptoms are relatively mild compared to some, with no obvious signs of coinfections, that it would be easy to get rid of. I am still sick 13 months on, so I guess I was wrong about that and it will take a while.

I have heard that some people have long-lasting herxes, and that starting a new drug can cause new symptoms to show up.

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I have been sick for 4 years and in treatment for two years. I was extremely sick the first two months of treatment but then felt pretty good for awhile.

Treating one infection will bring out others which is what happened to me. As I did not have an LLMD experienced in treating lyme and was dependent upon a very ignorant GP (still am) there were a lot of mistakes. I thought my worsening symptoms were side effects of the drugs so I quit them and took herbs instead, which sent me spiraling into illness again. That time is was primarily bart and remains so.


Now it seems like babesia might be an emerging new issue for me. That is why seeing a really good doctor, like the one you have an appointment with (lucky and smart you!) is so important.

I wish you the best so that you can get your life back and enjoy your little ones. You are going to be in good hands, from what I have have heard.

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Wow. I guess I'm lucky. I'm on day 32 of treatment and feel a lot better. Yes still have symptoms but they are all improved.

Balance is normal 90% of the time. Fatigue is gone. Brain fog is gone. Vision is better. Ears still ring and feel full but are better. Legs still twitch but are better. Still sweat a bit.

I'm on 400mg of doxy and pulse 1000mg of Flagyl 3 days every 2 weeks.

I really don't think I have herxed yet. I've had a few off days, but they were manageable.

Not bragging btw. Just hopeful.

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bcb1200, maybe you are ones of the people here who REALLY does have Lyme and it's working. [Smile] I'm sure some of us don't for real.
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? date of bite/no rash
10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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? date of bite/no rash
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CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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quote:
Originally posted by jwall:

I do get chills though.

Chills alone could indicate babesia. I'll bring the symptoms list here so you can review it.

Zith alone will not do anything for babesia. Add some mepron or artemisinin and you'll have something going!

Lyme and Coinfections Symptom List
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/81386

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I would remain hopeful and keep at it. I don't think a herx has to be constant - I get them cyclically throughout the day - usually right after the administration of an antibiotic or antifungal (although both are rated to have high blood serum levels for extended periods of time)

IV has a tendency of causing rapid but unsustainable gains and is not necessarily superior to orals. According my LLMD, some orals have blood brain barrier penetration than IV even. And IV comes with having the port, which would be difficult for an active person like me.

Sounds like you're herxing and making progress in terms of the illness, although it might seem like you're actually doing worse. Same thing happened to me. You will be in good hands with Dr. J. Good luck, it is a long road.

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CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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? date of bite/no rash
10/09 symptoms, 4/10 diagnosed, after 6 mos. ER visits, tons of docs/tests
CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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jwall
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Hi triathletelymie,
I was surprised to see my old post pop up again. I was reading it and so many things have happened since I posted back in June.

How are you feeling these days?

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CDC+ 23/39/41/45/58/66/93
currently on oral plaquenil, doryx, rifampin, pyrazinamide, nystatin, numerous supplements

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