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Some here will say yes treat every tick bite... I do not agree with this. I do think watching for symptoms is very very important and even 2-4 weeks (I think this is right) after a bite running a western blot just to make sure.
My dad has had probably 15+ ticks on him this year my mom has had a ton... both feel as well as they ever have so to treat every tick bite would mean constant medication.
Be observant but if the time comes be demanding.
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Here's what Dr. Joseph Burrascano, lyme disease guru has to say on the subject:
TREATMENT CATEGORIES
PROPHYLAXIS of high risk groups- education and preventive measures. Antibiotics are not given.
TICK BITES - Embedded Deer Tick With No Signs or Symptoms of Lyme (see appendix):
Decide to treat based on the type of tick, whether it came from an endemic area, how it was removed, and length of attachment (anecdotally, as little as four hours of attachment can transmit pathogens). The risk of transmission is greater if the tick is engorged, or of it was removed improperly allowing the tick's contents to spill into the bite wound. High-risk bites are treated as follows (remember the possibility of co-infection!): 1) Adults: Oral therapy for 28 days. 2) Pregnancy: Amoxicillin 1000 mg q6h for 6 weeks. Test for Babesia, Bartonella and Ehrlichia. Alternative: Cefuroxime axetil 1000 mg q12h for 6 weeks. 3) Young Children: Oral therapy for 28 days.
Burrascano treated lyme for over 25 years in the Hamptons. He treated thousands of cases. His lyme treatment guidelines were written to teach doctors how to treat lyme. These guidelines are followed by doctors all over the world. Suggest you read and study them.
I get 2 weeks of doxy for my husband each time I find an embedded tick on him. AND, I watch him for symptoms all that time and afterward.
One summer, I had to call the doc for doxy 3 times. The doc doesn't take insurance, so he gives me what I want without an argument or an office visit.
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- My life has pretty much been ruined since my late teens. Had I had the chance when I'd pulled some of those ticks off, ASAP after a tick bite, I'd rather have taken a chance with antibiotics (along with liver support like milk thistle) than with this toxic spirochete. I sure lost so much about my life. And the chance of ever being able to go out in public again is very slim.
Even if all six (+) stealth infections which were finally identified decades too late were to have a cure tomorrow, there's just been so much damage from lyme to my brain, liver, ears, adrenals. I can't even count the number of times my head slammed the floor from fainting and seizures (with no help from regular doctors and no LLMD in my state).
I'm not complaining actually and I still have some sort of plan but it's a very long shot. I've not been able to work in 17 years. I've been ill since 1971 from a tick bite my first semester in college. Never able to hold a job for long. Now, I require someone just to go get my mail and do some basic tasks. I go weeks without being around anyone and, even then, it's just too exhausting and too hard on my ears to even talk or listen. That's no life for anyone.
Don't let this happen to anyone else. Prevention is key. Early treatment is key.
We have to learn as much as we can about these infections.
Now, there are other ways to be proactive (such as with very specific herbal formulas or rife machine), but even with a 50-50 chance, it's a horrible bet. Some action is required.
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cactus
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quote:Originally posted by jenn:
Would you DEMAND ABX for every attached tick you
find on your child?? or wait and watch CAREFULLY.
ABX. I want the best life for my child. The best life does not include Lyme Disease.
Waiting for symptoms = giving spirochetes time to get a firm hold.
I'm not taking chances with my child's quality of life.
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No. As TF has said, refer to tbhe ILADS or Burrascano Guidelines (Pg. 19 of the 2008 guidelines)& use common sense. For example, a common brown dog tick that's been removed relatively quickly- & wasn't engorged at all- represents a Very tiny risk for Lyme. (I know some of those that read & post on these boards might disagree.)
But be aware that other rare-er diseases, like RMSF (Rocky Mountain spotted fever) can be passed via a quick bite from many tick species. The symptoms are acute & develop relatively quickly (24-48 hrs) & should be treated ASAP at a clinic or hospital, based on symptoms & type of rash.
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Yes, without question every tick bite should be treated with antibiotics!!!
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- I think we could garlic/allicin far more as a society and we'd be better off. If everyone got on board with that, we'd just cancel each other out.
I'd been looking for this - TF posted this earlier today at another thread.
"After a tick bite, Bb undergoes rapid hematogenous dissemination, and for example, can be found within the central nervous system as soon as twelve hours after entering the bloodstream." -
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