lyme in Putnam
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what happens when you live in ocd, take meds for it and am almost paralyzed by the thoughts I have> Its so hard to think logical when you've convinced yourself of something. IV and meds are helping. I'm so tired. Thanks.
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OmegaBrite. 3 capsules all at once per day with something "fatty".
It is very high in one of the Omega 3 fatty acids - EPA.
Order it over the internet. It is the ONLY one I have found to be the absolute most effective.
My son is on it...he has ADHD, Asperger's, seizures (low sodium triggered) and learning disabilities.
All of the above are linked to B6 - works with Mg - and ongoing brain inflammation.
OmegaBrite really helps him.
Give it time...it will work slowly from MANY angles. That is an understatement...you have no idea!!!
Time...MANY MONTHS...
Do not expect miracles overnight.
It is also recommended for manic-depression too, BTW...
Bb depletes many nutrients...very critical ones.
Mg, B3, B6, Zinc, vitamin C, sodium...just for starters...
If you would rather go the drug route (and I respect your right to chose), the highest level of Prozac will help.
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You might try supplements for overfocused ADD, which is when instead of having a short attention span, you get stuck on thoughts. Does caffeine make things worse? If so, this may be part of your problem. I have the same thing and you brought it to mind so I looked it up just now.
5HTP is supposed to help produce more serotonin (or pregnenolone) and St. John's wort helps with depression, which often leads to these stuck thoughts. Zinc and vitamin B is helpful. Magnesium quiets the nerves. Avoid caffeine. I have to have my morning cup of tea but it really sets me off.
You might try taking up a hobby that you can get carried away with. I was painting and could spend hours completely lost in it. Even if you make a complete mess, you enjoy nature more, see colors and beauty all around you. So if there are times of day when you are more likely to loose yourself, start doing something else during that time to refocus on something positive and constructive.
You can research overfocused attention deficit disorder online to learn more about it. This is all made worse by bartonella which causes anxiety and swinging emotions. Finding the right treatment protocol will help.
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massman
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"Stop ADHD in 18 Days" (also for related brain dysfunction) by Dr. Robert DeMaria.
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i think transdermal magnesium helps a little.
for some people (me) omega 3's can increase agitation/anxiety and OCD symptoms. fish oil etc. can raise your dopamine levels and for some of us excessive dopamine is part of the problem.
so, listen to your body.. it depends on the individual's brain chemistry.
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Do a Neuroscience complete neurotransmitter test ..it will tell you exactly what your brain is doing.
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Carol in PA
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You might try 4000mg of Omega 3's each day.
2000mg twice a day
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Marnie, an ART practicioner told me her 'testing' revealed OmegaBrite is loaded with Mercury.
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not sure if your ocd came on very suddenly but i saw on mystery diagnosis once a kid with sudden severe ocd ended up having streptococcus bacteria in his brain. After the right antibiotic treatment he was back to normal. I wish you luck in your recovery!
PS. Not a doctor....just reporting what I saw!
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It is common for people with Lyme Disease to develop mental disorders or to have already existing mental disorders triggered or enhanced.
It is great to use natural substances when you can......in mild cases go for it. But if the brain chemistry is screwed up, you need a physician to treat it properly or it can actually get worse.
If treated appropriately with the correct medication, you can many times reverse the disorder or "reset" the brain as my doc says.
Brain chemistry is nothing to mess around with!
If you have a true mental disorder, you cannot think it away or meditate it away or make it go away in 18 days.
Connections in the brain need to be corrected. This is not something you can treat yourself.
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Glad your meds are helping. One of my boys with Lyme has it as well (mostly in the form of motor tics) and I am trying to figure out the cause. It could be lyme, mycoplasma or some other coinfection but I have heard that borna virus can be a cause of OCD. The only test for it is in Germany. I am considering sending his blood to that lab.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by tick battler: One of my boys with Lyme has it as well (mostly in the form of motor tics) and I am trying to figure out the cause.
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New science is emerging about the role of glutamatergic neurotransmission in many brain disorders, including addiction, depression, OCD and even Alzheimers.
Glutamate is an excitatory neurotransmitter - too much of it can wreak havoc in many ways. Yale is doing a clinical trial for OCD using high-dose NAC, coupled with an antidepressant (e.g. Prozac) to reduce OCD symptoms. NAC is a glutamate modulator.
The Institute of Medicine is conducting a workshop this week to examine promising science emerging in this area and to establish biomarkers for future clinical studies.
I am clueless when it comes to science, but I have a picture in my mind of what this disease does once established inside the body - little bugs skipping along merrily flipping switches and turning dials - turning off production of some things, turning up the production of others (glutamate!) and throwing its new playground into a regulatory tailspin!
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Your picture IS worth 10,000 words !
Thanks for helping me smile this morning, I needed it.
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That was very interesting information about magnesium. I will remember to take mine in my yogurt, which I was doing, but have lately been forgetting.
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Marnie
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Carol...
The Application of Nutrition to Psychiatric Illness Steffany J Fredman, MA ; Jerrold F Rosenbaum, MD
Omega-3 Fatty Acids in Psychiatric Disorders According to Jerry Cott, PhD,[2] of the US Food and Drug Administration, the observation that omega-3 fatty acids have mood stabilizing properties has generated research into the utility of omega-3 as a treatment for a variety of psychiatric disorders.
Dr. Cott explained that the essential fatty acids omega-3 and omega-6 are taken in through diet and compete with each other for the same elongation enzymes. Omega-6 eventually leads to arachidonic acid and eicosanoids, which promote inflammation, platelet clotting, and the production of prostaglandins. Omega-3 also leads to the production of eicosanoids, but the eicosanoids that are derived from omega-3 -- eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) -- actually possess anti-inflammatory properties and decrease platelet stickiness.
When the proportion of omega-6 acids eaten to omega-3 acids eaten reaches 20:1, the enzyme used by both fatty acids for elongation favors omega-6. Although the precise mechanism through which this affects mental health is unclear, it has been hypothesized that depletion of DHA causes a change in neurotransmitter receptors and that depletion of omega-3 fatty acids generally contributes to serotonergic dysregulation.[3] Furthermore, explained Dr. Cott, the depletion of DHA may result from consuming large amounts of foods that contain corn and soy oils, which consist of omega-6 and are present in processed, high-fat foods. Fish oil, on the other hand, contains high levels of omega-3.
Goes on to talk about:
Omega-3 in Major Depression
Omega-3 in Bipolar Disorders
Omega-3 in Schizophrenia, OCD, Borderline Personality Disorder, and Hostility
Etc.
Lymeout...accurate picture!!! VERY.
Seek...don't believe everything you hear. Use your own good judgement.
Marnie
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Up for Carol and esp. for Tick Battler's son (follow the link above for help).
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tick battler
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Marnie, Thanks so much for posting this link...very helpful. I have more research to do - it never ends! Best, tickbattler
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