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I have been dealing with Lyme's disease for the last four years.
I have been going to a LLD for about a year.
I have been on the usual antibiotics with only marginal improvement.
I heard from a friend who has Lyme that she went to an alternative medicine doctor who was able to really help her get to feeling better. I don't know many of the details, but he uses homeopathy and works with meridian points.
Before I pursue any help from this doctor, I am hoping to see if anyone else has been to a similar doctor and if those doctors were able to help or not?
Thank you in advance for any info you all might be able to provide me.
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sixgoofykids
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I went to a doctor in Germany who used light and homeopathics as well as detox IV's to get me well. I was there for three weeks and continued treatment after I got back.
If you're interested, my blog is linked below. Go back to the last post as it's the first post from my trip over there, then read forward.
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massman
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Try that doc. If you have not had much improvement wtth what you have been doing it is time to change things.
I know LLND in WV who helps many with homeopathy and IV Vitamin C.
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- Homeopathy will help with some, maybe, but only with symptoms. It cannot address the infection. Some herbal methods may.
Meridian point work (is that with acupuncture?) will help but it will not directly affect infection, alone, but as part of a plan.
First, how much does your LLD know? LYME (no "s") is very complex. Is your doctor a member of ILADS? or at least ILADS-educated, that is having read all of ILADS research, including ILADS guidelines And Burrascano's guidelines so he has the basics about the science of the spirochete?
Since you say lyme's, I'm a bit concerned as any doctor who is ILADS-educated would not use that term. They'd say "lyme" - so many doctors who don't know all they should often add the "s" - so I'm not criticizing you, just concerned about your doctor.
I do know of an excellent Doctor of Ayurvedic medicine near you. I will send you a PM with that name. Not specifically a LLND (naturopathic doctor but one who is very familiar). More later.
I guess if your friend sees success, why not go to that same doctor. It's just that I'm pretty sure there is more to it than just homeopathy if your friend has lyme. There are many good methods out there. Even if not directly addressing lyme, it may be helpful.
You'll just need to ask them about their knowledge base. Interview them to find out what they know about lyme and their methods and philosophies. Ask them for reading materials and WHO they learned from about all this.
Then, just take it all in and get a sense of how you feel with a treatment. -
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massman
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Homeopathy = like CURES like.
Change the internal terrain (environment) so it is not a good place for bacteria to live and numbers will decrease.
Antibiotics may NOT always be necessary.
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- Antibiotics are not always the answer but homeopathy is just not enough, alone.
Herbs are much more specific. Using homeopathics alone is like brushing your hair. Feels good, but does not have the power it needs, or specificity. As part of an overall plan, can be helpful - just not enough. I wasted a year or more on a doctor who swore by homeopathy.
But, as your friend saw help, go see for yourself. Find out more about the methods. The description is just too vague for anyone here to know exactly what that entails.
You can talk to them by phone first and then come back with more specifics as to how they work with the meridians, etc. -
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Depends how it's used. When I was in Germany, we used homeopathic nosodes of actual Lyme bacteria along with the light. It triggered the immune system to kill the bacteria.
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- Nosode treatment is much more specific. Yes.
Classical homeopathy, though, just didn't cut it. My comments were about that kind of homeopathy. SixGoofyKids and others had good success with Nosode treatments along with the Light program - Bionic 880.
I used two full courses of nosodes alone, twice, and very disappointed. Seems that the light treatment, together with the Bionic 880, makes all the difference. It would be really cool if you found someone with that, and the knowledge.
Yorkie, the terms we use here will be more familiar after you talk with that practitioner. And please let us know more. I'm curious. -
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True, I think the was the light/Bionic 880 at the same time as the nosodes that cured it. The nosodes pointed out the problem, the light gave the energy to go after it.
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Why does ones own experience then apply to everyone elses experience ? Seemingly automatically ?
Classical homeopathy is the MOST specific treatment I have seen + used. Lots of what is perceived as homeopathy now is sorta like a garbage can.
Yes it can be used as nosodes with lights. Seen and used it before.
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- Classical homeopathy does not address spirochetes. It works differently. It can be emensely helpful to relieve some symptoms it's just that it does not directly address any form of the spirochete.
The homeoopathic, LEDUM, can be very good for a bite, if used immediately afterward. A higher homeopathic dose of ledum is sometimes used for late stage. I did that twice with two different ND/homeopathic doctors who thought it should be a miracle cure. It had no effect at all. But, they knew nothing about lyme.
IF the person you will see has a good knowledge base, they will have a full range of methods they can employ.
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Yorkie,
This gives you an idea of what you are working with. The borrelia spirochete is very complex:
BIOCHEMISTRY OF LYME DISEASE: BORRELIA BURGDORFERI SPIROCHETE / CYST
by Prof. Robert W. Bradford and Henry W. Allen
EXCERPTS: . . .
A discovery of great importance relating to a toxin produced by the causative agent of Lyme disease, Borrelia burgdorferi, has been linked to a similar toxin produced by the organism Clostridium botulinum (botulism). . . .
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You need someone who knows all this, too:
Researcher Eva Sapi has some fascinating observations. It's not just the spirochete: Borrelia b. has many forms and, within those, dozens more. --------------
-- This video is a 10 minute clip, part of a 70 minute interview with Dr. Sapi from the University of New Haven.
She is credited with being the first researcher to demonstrate that Lyme spirochetes can actually create their own complex biofilm community to survive indefinitely within their hosts; both human and animal. In May, the full transcript will be made available on the biofilmcommunity.org web site (See Expert Interview section) -
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Yorkie04,
I was dx five years ago with lyme disease. Have had it for fifteen years. Took abx for five years and was at death's door last December. Abx did not work for me.
I finally got well using homeopathic treatments from a well know LLND. I went to his clinic for 2 weeks, spent 7 thousand dollars (still making payments on credit card) and finally started getting better.
I'm still getting better, and if it wasn't for natural medicines, natural treatments and therapies, I honestly believe I would not be here today. For me, natural medicines saved my life. There is no "on size fits all" when it comes to treating this disease.
I happen to believe that one can get get just as well using homeopathic medicines as they can by using abx. And the best part of all, most all homeopathic medicine is nontoxic and the herxes are very mild and tolerable compared to those with abx.
Am I cured of lyme disease? No, but I finally have a life now. Rather than go into the long story about it here, just read the thread I started back in January.
By the way, I am NOT anti-antibiotics. It's just that they didn't work for me. They almost destroyed my stomach and the side effects from many of them were more than I could handle.
After reading this thread, if you have any questions feel free to post them here or send me a pm. Here's the link to the thread called the "Hansa Center Update".
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Thank you all for the info and the encouragement. I was first diagnosed with Lyme by a doctor who had no clue about Lyme.
Long story short I was then diagnosed with Fibromyalgia which I though I had until I started talking with a friend who had Lyme and educated me a little more on the subject.
Just about a year ago I started going to a doctor referred to me by that friend.
He helped me a lot at first yet he is reluctant to pursue any other means of helping me besides using antibiotics and exercise.
Keebler, thank you for all the info and the links. The doctor I am going to right now is ILADS-educated and he follows Burrascano's guidelines. yet as I mentioned I am not very happy with him. I am trying to branch out and find another doctor and other ways to get better. It was my 'my bad' there on the spelling. I am still pretty new to all of this. I appreciate the heads up.
massman and sixgoofykids, thank you both for the info and the encouragement.
gwb, Thank you for the encouraging story of your path to getting better and your advice and info. It gives me hope that I can beat this.
I intend to looking at all the info you all have given me and start pursuing these different paths.
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