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I posted earlier yesterday that the infectious disease doc was going to give me a PICC line. My husband and I went in today to see her. I was so excited to get this PICC line because my LLND says it would just be a good way to kick start my treatment. My LLND said after the picc line to not EVER see my Infectious disease doc again.
I have these new stretch mark looking things on my side and legs, and showed my infectious disease doc. I have all the Bartonella symptoms with it also. The shin splints is the worse with the heel and sole pain.
She looked at them. Then She freaked on me. Saying you can only have Bartonella if you have HIV. That I do not have Bartonella! Then Started to go off how she went to Yale. How I need to start reading research from Harvard and Yale. Earlier she had said That I am acting like a Lyme Activist.
She then said I DID have a postive lyme test, but she said she cured me with Doxy! That my Lyme and Ehrlichia should be gone. That basically ALL the pain I still have that I am making up.
My husband was just starring at me. He became angry with the doctor for treating me like that. The infectious disease doc told me the IV wouldnt work any way and that she just offered it to me so she wouldnt be sued.
She says I need to go back to the Internist doc and neurologist doc, and that I NO LONGER have an infectious disease. I then told her that I am negitive for every possible test there is for MS and Lupus! Then she makes it sound like she doesn't want to waste her time on me anymore.
My husband left the office. I ended balling in the car on the way home. My husband is still angry at that doc. I have never heard my husband so angry like that. My husband just wants me better so we can eventually start a family.
I am still upset. I am scared of the oral treatment from the LLND. I know others that see her take it, but I am so scared. People were telling me the LLND's tend to over dose their patients. I don't want to believe it. I just want to get better.
Hopefully I can see her next month and get started. I think i might just her an email.
I have been sick for just almost a year, I just want to be normal again.
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I am sorry about your experience. It is absolutely terrible. Make sure you take pictures of your rashes for the llmd. Feel better. Take care. Sending get well hugs.
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I hope you didn't pay her. The b___h is nuts...
That PhD in Alabama (Amy Bishop) went to Harvard. She killed her own brother + 3 colleagues.
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Been there. Many doctor's do not understand that they are in the HEALING profession. Many are not healers.
It is emotionally difficult because one is vulnerable. You ARE correct, she is dangerously mistaken.
Thank goodness you have a good diagnosis and have found an LLMD. Keep moving forward, you are on the right track...you will get better!
In the future (way in the future) forgive the person, not the behavior. Staying as emotionally clear as possible is important to physical health and healing.
bless you, sorry about that. you are still ahead of many others who never get diagnosed...
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That's why we SO LOVE ID ducks! Oh yeah! That is so terrible you were treated that way. I do so hope your husband gave her a big piece of his mind!!!
You said, "I am scared of the oral treatment from the LLND. I know others that see her take it, but I am so scared. People were telling me the LLND's tend to over dose their patients. I don't want to believe it. I just want to get better."
Are you talking about an LLND or an LLMD?? I'm confused as to why you are afraid of being overdosed by one??
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Sorry to hear that you have had the typical response from an ID duck.
I'm sure she is implying that she was trained by the "experts" since Steere is from Yale.
Steere and his cronies are considered THE "experts". Don't know why since they don't treat chronic lyme and know nothing about it because they deny that it exists! Her stance that you are cured despite continuing symptoms is Steere all the way! I know people who have heard it directly from his mouth and who went on to suffer for 20 years with debilitating symptoms until they figured out he was wrong.
mcg wrote: I am scared of the oral treatment from the LLND.
What is the treatment that you are afraid of?
mcg wrote: People were telling me the LLND's tend to over dose their patients.
Do you know why they would say that? Most LLND's treat wholistically which would be the opposite of hitting it with brute force. The LLND's I've seen so far are not overly aggressive and tend to fall at the other end of the spectrum.
I hope you can get treatment soon.
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That's really too bad! That doc is an embarrassment to the medical profession! She needs to learn humility and compassion and hang up the Ivy League arrogance and address her ignorance! Truly a crime! I am truly sorry that you had to experience that!!! Sending lots of hugs and good thoughts your way! Hang in there!
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So sorry you had to endure that! Those experiences can be really scarring. Why couldn't the doctor have just expressed her opinion in a respectful, non-judgmental way? If she was a true professional, she would have!
I have had some ID docs express their stance in a respectful way, and others who have been judgmental. No reason to do the latter. She should be ashamed. She will only end up turning away patients by acting like that...which is for the better.
It is a good thing your husband believes and trusts YOU and was not swayed by what the doc said! You are lucky to have him in your corner. Make sure to give him and extra hug for standing by you and being supportive!
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quote:Originally posted by Hoosiers51: So sorry you had to endure that! Those experiences can be really scarring. Why couldn't the doctor have just expressed her opinion in a respectful, non-judgmental way? If she was a true professional, she would have!
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It is a good thing your husband believes and trusts YOU and was not swayed by what the doc said! You are lucky to have him in your corner. Make sure to give him and extra hug for standing by you and being supportive!
Ditto!!
I would sit down and write her a very "nice" letter once you cool down a bit. And send a carbon copy of your letter to the Medical Board of the state.
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What a toad!
I suggest writing your experience down and sending it to the hospital administrators where she works ... to your legislators and and then to the media.
NO one deserves that kind of garbage....
But many endure it because they have no choice.
Don't let her get away with it and be able to do this to someone else.
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Hi mcg - I see you are from Idaho. I am well-acquainted with the LLNDs practicing in WA state. If your LLND is in WA, we should talk. PM me.
The way you were treated by that ID duck was condescending and rude! Just awful! There should be no place for that in the medical system.
As for the HIV reference, there are lots of papers coming from Harvard and Yale about this "emerging epidemic" seen in immunocompromised patients - Bartonella!
Gee, is there any other immunocompromised group we know, whose disease vector (ticks) even carries the Bartonella? Hmmm....who would that be?
You are smarter than your doctor, and not just about Lyme. Anyone who would treat a patient like that is an idiot. Stay away from her.
And PM me about your LLND. I am on multiple oral antibiotics through mine. I have never been overdosed.
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Stephanie - I too am sorry for all you have been through.
I agree with 17hens, NOT going through with treatment is what would scare me.
Once you start treatment and feel some results I think you will feel better and more hopeful about the future. I sure hope so anyway.
Makes me soooo glad I skipped my referral to the ID doc.
Take care. Hang in there
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I'm actually thankful the first doc I was sent to, after testing positive for Lyme, was an infectious disease doc.
She was so incompetent and rude that it inspired me to search deeper into treatment options.
The next day I found this website, my LLMD, and the rest is history.
It's scary to think of where I'd be right now if not for the internet(mostly this website) and the ability to research and come to my own conclusions about certain health issues.
So for all of that... I thank you O'incompetent Infectious Disease Quack.
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I got a good dose of this crap before I knew what was going on. An infectious disease doc ripping me and my character to pieces, yet offering no solution.
Such a delightful bunch. So sure they're right. So nasty and scared. Protecting themselves, their useless jobs, and their precious million dollar homes.
ID docs can go f*&K themselves and burn in hell for causing so much suffering!!!!! You don't have to be an activist to want to be helped, to be functional. I can't stand hearing one more story like this. It's THE LIVING END!!!!! Posts: 702 | From North Eastern USA | Registered: Dec 2009
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Hi Stephanie:
I'm sorry this has had to happen, unfortunately you are now experiencing the controvery in diagnosing and treating Lyme and its co infections.
What you describe is similar to what we experienced with my daughters pediatric infectious disease MD when he indicated her new and advancing symptoms were in her mind.
We knew it was not in her mind and you know its not in yours.
I recommend reading Dr. B's Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease and see LLMD.
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Hi Stephanie:
I'm sorry this has had to happen, unfortunately you are now experiencing the controvery in diagnosing and treating Lyme and its co infections.
What you describe is similar to what we experienced with my daughters pediatric infectious disease MD when he indicated her new and advancing symptoms were in her mind.
We knew it was not in her mind and you know its not in yours.
I recommend reading Dr. B's Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease and see LLMD.
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yale...big deal, george bush went there too....anyway, sorry about your experience. i can relate, to a point. that was way harsh to be treated like that. sorry again, stay strong and focused!!!
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mcg, I think we've all been in your shoes...
I saw a "best of" infectious disease doctor, because my traditional rheumatologist referred me, as he was convinced I had a systemic infection.
This infectious disease doctor basically laughed me out out his office when I said I needed more antibiotics. I didn't even mention lyme. I wasn't convinced I even had lyme at the time.
When I told him I was receiving IV clindamycin, he immediately wanted to know the name of the doctor that was prescribing it. I wouldn't tell him, so he left in a huff, with his doctor-in-training trailing behind him.
What a joke; aren't these the doctors that are supposed to cure infectious diseases??? I am grateful every day that there are doctors, willing to risk their livelihood and license to treat us!
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quote:Originally posted by mcg08002: My LLND said after the picc line to not EVER see my Infectious disease doc again.
Your LLND made a big mistake. An ILADS-trained LLND who is current with the latest Lyme disease treatment shouldn't have set you up for abuse.
Dear Stephanie, I am sorry you have painful LD & several co-infections.
SO sorry you were abused (verbally, emotionally, financially...)
What an outrageous injustice! You are sick, with several parasitic infections, and the stupid duck threw a fit to detract from the fact that you're better educated in "her field."
That ID duck needs to be written up to the State Med Board w/ copies to your insurance carrier and her medical society. Maybe your very dear hubby could make positive use of his justified anger? She definitely should not be paid for that "office visit!"
I'm wondering if your concern about a LLND "overdosing patients" may be a distortion of the fact that the majority of conventional Western med ducks in America do NOT provide adequate antibiotics to Lyme disease patients.
Have you heard of any people with LD that are now in remission after working with your LLND? Or were there actual cases of her "overdosing patients" so they required hosp, stomach pumped, or worse?
It could take 400 to 600 mg/day doxy (Rx WITH MEALS!) for 6 wks + an additional 3 mons beyond date all symptoms are gone to effectively put LD into remission.
The psycho ID duck who abused you prob only prescribed 100 mg doxy 2x/day, which is inadequate to claim "cured!" NO ONE has EVER "cured" chronic Lyme disease. The stealth spirochetes persist in tissue.
You can heal, achieve long-term remission, and be "normal again" without IV antibiotics. Many have been successful. Real shame your LLND set you back to that abusive ID duck at all.
Have you read Stephen Harrod Buhner's Healing Lyme?
I hope you have your copy of Dr. J Burrascano's Oct 2008 Treatment Guidelines (37 pgs) in a 3-hole binder where you can easily refer to it and make notes.
Are you already drinking 3 oz. coconut kefir daily and taking probiotics & supplements Burrascano suggests? They are SO helpful. With Lyme neuroborreliosis, you are immuno-compromised, so extra nutritional support is key to healing.
All best wishes to you newlyweds, Smile
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My LLND didn;t want me to go back to the infectious disease doc in the first place. She is the one who said I needed to understand the differences of the IDSA and the ILADS. I told her my picc would be payed for if I saw the ID, and she said that it could help kick start my treatment, but it would be my choice. She was very concerned about seeing the ID doc. She looked at me and knew I had bartonella. I was skeptical at first, but within a month I now have the stretch marks.... she was right.
The ID doc seemed at first she was willing to work with us, my LLND is very good. She is Dr. T from Montana. She has patients from all over the country and canada. The ID doc never has been rude until today. My husband said it WOULD eventually happen.... and he was right.
My LLND has a packet with all the treatments, and makes you read the differens between the IDSA and the ILADS before she starts to treat to make sure that one understands. She works with and stays in contact with DR H in Redwood City , CA
Someone here refereed me to the LLND, and she has been the only one who has understand. At the first appoitment she was already clincally diagnosing me with stuff. After telling her my symptoms she knew I had Ehrlichia... I was so shocked because i WAS POSTIVE for Ehirlichia!
She was trained by one of the guys in "Under Our Skin". She is a member of the ILADS.
I just cannot believe the ID Doc had a BI POLAR Epoisode Today!
-------------------- Stephanie, University Student.
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Stephanie - Is this the same ID doctor that diagnosed you back in March and made you get 2 spinal taps because she said your CDC positive test was a false positive?
You can probably get your insurance to cover IV treatment for the same amount of time with an LLMD as you would with an ID doc since you are CDC positive.
Despite the fact that the ID doctor told you your CDC positive was probably a false positive, most insurance companies will allow treatment with IV.
I hope you won't wait for treatment any longer trying to get help from an ID doctor. With few exceptions, they are all the same. Sounds like you have a good LLND lined up.
Hope you start feeling better soon.
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Its fine! ;-) Just hard being married, both of us college students, and paying the costs of lyme disease! lol.
My husband is going to apply for Optomitry school in 4 more semester, and then I am going to go to school for 15 months to get my cosmetology license (Since my university suspended me for 12 months, even though its due to medical) , and then finish my last couple semesters back at my university so i can teach k-3!
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Still, better to get treatment now than remain sick and not be able to work in the future.
ID ducks say anything and everything to get us out of their offices.
I wonder, if we were up for it, if we could come up with instant comebacks.
"Yes, now that you mention it, I think I might also have HIV, but it isn't showing up in tests. So can I please have some abx?"
I actually got the ID duck I saw to prescribe some abx! Afterwards, we were going to send everyone to him for the kind of drug I got - ie, clindamycin - "cleenda, cleenda, go get your cleenda!"
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I am so sorry you got abused like that. I have heard this same story way too many times.
I am thankful that I heard about it BEFORE my doctor tried to send me to an ID "doctor," so I could decline.
I am very happy to hear that your husband defended you. Some people have the opposite experience--that their family believes the ID duck, and makes things even worse.
I am glad that you have a caring and knowledgeable LLND to help you. Treatment is a physical and financial struggle for everyone, but you will probably feel more confident when you see that it is working.
Good luck to you.
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There isn't a rule against publishing the ID docs name. Others should be warned. She should be sued.
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I too am sorry to hear what you had to go through.
But I am wondering what one should do if you have an out-of-State llmd and need a picc line in. Who do you go to if not an infectious doctor locally?
I don't seem to be able to find an answer to this...I am even willing to take the abuse if one locally agrees to just put the damn thing in...
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Quote: The infectious disease doc told me the IV wouldn't work any way and that she just offered it to me so she wouldn't be sued."
Just that right there shows she's not only a "duck" but a naive, paranoid Fool. On the other hand, orals are a lot "safer & simpler" than a PICC line. Not to say that it might not be the best route for you at this time, but a L.L.M.D. is the 1 who should be making that decision, not an ID doc.
Remember, if she'd given you the PICC line, she probably would've only given you 1 month of Rocephin, after which you liklely would have replapsed. If IV's picked as the way to go, you typ. need 2 to a few months on IV, followed by an oral abx protocol for a few months more. THEN maintainence therapy as suggested by a LLMD, or better yet, LLND. ForGET you ever knew her & find a wiser Doc!
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quote:Originally posted by Troup Brazelton: There isn't a rule against publishing the ID docs name. Others should be warned. She should be sued.
Sounds good to me!!
(Could mcg be held libel for anything she said about this dr if the dr is now named?)
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- Q: Could mcg be held libel for anything she said about this dr if the dr is now named?
Not if it is true. The major legal test for Libel (or slander) is that has to be a falsehood. It's that simple. However, if a truth that can harm someone is spread simply out of malice, that is also a consideration.
I see neither lie nor malice here. Truth, shared with good intent, will hold up in any court in the land.
Still, it is is poor taste to name any ID doctor directly on the internet. It's enough to share details with the local lyme support group leaders so they know.
Also, remember that - legally, and even according to the medical code - the ID doctor has done nothing wrong. She is following standard medical procedure. Whether she's to lazy to learn more or question that very poor standard, she is simply following the rules of her precious IDSA and the ID doctors in her state that she has to answer to regarding all this.
We know it's bad policy and we have documents to show why. But, as she has chosen not to learn more, you simply have the right to find another doctor. We can't make them change religion nor can we force them to look outside their comfort zone. But we don't have to hire them.
Also to keep in mind, if the doctor sees what they interpret to be disparaging comments about them (even if based in truth), the patient's medical chart will have a big black mark on it forever.
I don't think it is wise to ever post a name on the web. It's just poor manners for a start. There are other ways to inform others - through the local lyme support groups. Education is the foundation. -
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I was sick for a decade before I got treatment. 9 months of orals gave me back my life. It's been 5 1/2 years now since I stopped antibiotic treatment.
Treatment with orals can be done safely. Many docs have success with oral Rifampin for Bartonella treatment. Not sure where you got the idea the IV was the only way to go. Especially if you're dealing with Bart.
Skip the ID 'duck' and the stress. Beg and borrow if you have to in order to stick with you LLND or find an LLMD, tell hubby school has to wait a bit, because you only get one life and one chance to fix things right now. The longer you wait, the tougher it gets to treat.
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The LLND is only $190 a month. She is only 2 hours away. I was shocked she only charged that much. She has put many into remission. She has so much hope for me. She did tell my husband and I to wait to start a family and explained about the thing with Pregnancy and lyme.
She says it's still possible to have healthy children with lyme, but with as sick as I am, that it will be a good idea to wait and get me better as much as we can before we have our first one. (Because it takes LOTS of energy to be a mom!)
She gave me lots of papers to read about ILADS and IDSA and their differences. The office staff is so friendly. She is a LLND, and so friendly. The first time seeing her I felt like I already knew her. Just a really good vive about her. She was trained by one of the guys in "Under Our Skin".
She is so knowlegable about Lyme. She says that in 6-12 months, this could go into remission. (I have only been sick for 9 months).
She wants to treat co infections first.
It's just now I have these nasty vericose vein looking things in bunches all over my legs and hips, along with these stretch mark red things. These vericose veins are not normal or the red things. Thing have been just popping up.
-------------------- Stephanie, University Student.
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Sorry you endured such an awful experience. We have all had our times with uneducated ducks. And its just wrong.
I think it is time for lyme patients to stop putting up with this kind of crap. I would write a letter to the state medical board and CC it to the ID doc. She behaved in a very unethical way and it needs to be acknowledged as such. They can't keep getting away with that stuff.
If Lyme patients don't start standing up for ourselves, the lyme community is not going to gain any ground.
I hope you feel better soon. Don't be afraid of treatment. Most ppl get well on orals!
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The veiny rashes and red things are from Bartonella. Often the Bart rashes go away with treatment. Get started!
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It would be nice to have good looking legs again! My husbands legs are looking better than mine! lol
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- Believe, me - your legs don't look any worse than the damage that TBD (tick-borne disease) can do inside a body. When the inside gets better, so will the outside. You just have some "art work" for the time being. -
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Artwork? haha. Keebler, that is such a funny way to look at it. I sometimes just complain about it. Its just so gross. Bunches of dark purple and red vericose looking things. bunches on my knee. Ankle. Theighs. Hips. Gosh lol.
-------------------- Stephanie, University Student.
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"You can only have bartonella if you have HIV".....what utter bollocks!
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Call a TV station? Newspaper? These doctors who do this to patients are real scum. I'm SICK of hearing these stories from suffering people.
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So thats what is all over my legs! I never wear shorts anymore. Hope it goes away.
Definetly write that letter! Time for us abused lyme patients to start to fight back! I'm just so sick of the way they are doing us and getting away with it.
If you don't do something, she will continue to hurt other patients in the same way and some might not even know better.
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