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I have been on IV Rocephin for 3 months and am feeling better but along the way I tried two doses of Ledum last month and felt great. Now I don't know if I should stop the IV anti and go with the Ledum for a month because I am being told that the two together don't mix well. I am also having a lot of trouble with my medi port right now and wonder if its Gods way of saying take a break..
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Keebler
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- You are the second person, in two days' time, to post about ledum and have high hopes for it. Was there just an article somewhere about it?
Do you know others for whom it was the key to success?
I'm wondering who gave you the advice to rely on Ledum as your main key - I don't really need a name - but just hope you have a true specialist. Seems very shaky to me. But, if there is a link to a new article, I'd love to see it.
Ledum failed me miserable, after 3 different NDs (over time) so believed in it. I did not know then all the science of lyme. In fact, Google had not even been developed so I had no internet to help me learn. Just all sorts of doctors who had no clue about lyme.
You need to consider the scope of your homeopathic doctor's experience and their knowledge of lyme. Be sure they certified in homeopathy. AND also ILADS-educated.
Feeling good on two doses of a homeopathic does not necessarily mean it's going to save the day. I feel better after a nice lentil soup, too, but it's not going to address the spirochetes directly. Ledum has a very limited scope of action. It is most helpful at the very beginning stage - before the spirochetes can even ensconce themselves.
If a homeopathic doctor is going to treat you, be sure they also know ALL the science of lyme. It's very complex. Be sure they are not just working from conjecture but have helped dozens, or hundreds of others achieve solid and long-term remission.
I can tell you this: Ledum (especially ledum alone) is not likely to offer you the success you wish. Perhaps whomever you would be working with on this has a more intricate plan. Be sure to find out exactly how that would work.
If you are looking for complementary options, there are many. I just don't think ledum can be a star player against an established infection of the stature of Borrelia b.
Good luck with your study and your decision. If you want some complementary links, I've gathered a set and can post for you. I'm far from well but have done reasonably well with suggestions from Buhner's "Healing Lyme" book. -
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- You will find ten other threads through a search of the archives. Just use "Ledum" in the subject line search of medical:
Then, you can click onto a poster's name to see their posting history for what they posted AFTER their experiences with Ledum -- to see how they did over time (of course, considering that for any lyme patient, nothing is ever very simple).
One poster who did so well with Ledum for a while, sadly, lost ground soon afterward. We can learn from others' experiences so that we can minimize risks / setbacks and maximize potential, when that may exist. -
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- My NDs did not do my Ledum treatment like he describes. I did get the 1M dose for several days in a row (twice) but I think only once a day.
While this one article, alone, does not change my expectations of Ledum, as my repeated attempts had zero effect. Still, it may be worth reading. I do hope you have a good certified homeopathic who is lyme literate (but I know that's not always the case).
So, the next time you take a few days off of antibiotics, this can't seem to hurt anything. Still, if you are on other drugs for other things, they can impede effects of some homeopathics. This is where a trained doctor comes in so handy as they'd know more about that.
It might be worth a try to see if this guy has written more since or what a current review of the literature would bring up. Not sure if he's referring to brand new cases or established case but, for thought:
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July 07, 2008 (as best I can guess for the date of this)
. . .While I do not treat human beings, some of my clients with animals suffering from Lyme disease have taken Ledum 1M for their own lyme disease infections, after seeing the positive result with their animals. . . .
. . . one pellet of Ledum 1M three times a day for three days. All signs of the disease are gone by the end of three days, often even by the end of the first day. . . .
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Then, be sure to go back to past threads. There were others who worked up to the 1M dose, slowly. Follow-ups for those, however, did not provide much hope for Ledum. Those posters were back later with more symptoms and questions.
If you have new links, please post those as I'm still interested in knowing all I can about this, either way. -
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thank you Keebler for the information. sorry i didn't get right back to you but I was in the hospital having surgery to have my medi port removed and replaced. It turned out the thing was leaking so that is why I was having so much pain. I apprec. your information and will look into it all.
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I would stay on the rocephin and be very glad that I was feeling better. Ledum has been around for a very long time. I believe it was called Trapper's Tea and used by Russian fur trappers who picked ticks out of pelts to prevent "muscle wasting disease" (ALS?). Russia has done alot of research with this herb but if it was a cure for ALS or lyme I think we would all know about it. Still, it may help some people so if your LLMD thinks its ok to take with the rocephin, go for it. Where do you get your Ledum? Make sure it isn't combined with sugar.
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Do the Klinghardt Lyme cocktail (google this) with the 5 in 1 Quintessence tincture from Biopure instead of IV if you still actually have lyme and co infections...versus fungus, candica, mold, heavy metals, and chemicals and parasites! Those can give the same symptoms as lyme symptoms.
IV just pushes it deeper...and detoxing later will be difficult. with IV antibiotics, there is not way you will not be full of candida/fungus/mold type issues...so know you already have more than lyme, and no way to find out if on IV.
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