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JunkYardWily
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im tring to find something sweet i can eat and ive seen things with sugar alcohol in it. ive heard it doesnt regester much on glicemic index. ok for pepopel with lyme?

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Doesn't sound like a good option, JYW!

SO Delicious (brand) Strawberry Coconut Milk Kefir is a totally fabulous and we all need to drink about 3 oz of kefir each day! It's like a milkshake that is required!

Organic carrot sticks are very sweet and offer fiber, vitamins & nutrients.

Organic apples have many health benefits.

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First, if you crave sugar, you may be low in magnesium.

My opinion differs from some here. I think the sugar alcohols are just processed junk food.

I guess I don't know what you mean by trying to find something sweet to eat. Just pick it off a tree, so to speak.

But I just don't eat any processed foods and can't even think anymore of what they might even be. I go with fruit when I want something sweet (or one ounce of VERY dark chocolate with nuts). Nuts, alone, are also sweet. As are carrots.

Fruit. Dark berries and tart apples are the best. Plums, too. If too tart, you can add a dash of stevia, from plant.

Actually, most fruit, if eaten in moderation, AFTER a balanced meal or with some nuts, etc (for glycemic balance) can still work for many, even if they deal with candida.

Fruits offer tremendous benefits and I think it's a mistake to avoid them. I did that for 10 years, battling candida. It was a huge mistake for me. Olive Leaf extract and a good probiotic made it possible for me to eat fruit again and I'm much better for it.

OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT did far more in controlling - and totally fixing the candida problem for me - than avoiding valuable fruits ever did.

The key is the amount, the timing and the particular piece of fruit. You can google the one with higher sugar content but keep in mind the enormous array of essential nutrients that HELP our bodies get stronger.

Green & Blacks Organic 85% DARK chocolate (85% or higher, no lower).

Pomegranate Juice - Trader Joe's has a 100% organic juice. Add stevia to taste, and add water as it's very tart straight.

Green Tea - my favorite is Yogi Teas CHAI GREEN. I use a dash of stevia with it. You can add almond milk, too.

You can make a bit of a sweet veggie dip by adding a touch of stevia and lots of dill weed to GREEK yogurt (the thicker kind).

Yogurt and fruit are nice, too. Actually, nonfat yogurt is higher on the glycemic index. Low fat is better for glucose stabilization.

For an "ice cream" - BLISS - it may be called "Coconut Bliss" from coconut milk, sweetened with agave. Loaded with calories, though, just loaded. One serving is just not realistic, either.

So Delicious - and Soy Delicious - also make a few of their organic soy "ice creams" sweetened with fruit juice - but they are still tons sweeter than they should be and one serving is just a joke. I just have to stay away from them.

You can make your own "ice creams" with a $50 Cuisinart ice cream maker (see www.surlatable.com ). You can use almond milk or coconut milk, some fruit, or stevia if you use cocoa powder, etc. Guar Gum can be used to thicken it. That way, you control everything that goes into it.

Sugar alcohols may be okay, technically, regarding glycemic index -- but many are processed from GMO corn, grown with chemicals. Also, most are added to things that are not really so good for us with flours, etc.

Sugar alcohols also cause very painful bloating and loose stools, and there is no warning light for how many bites it takes for that to happen later. If you get something with a sugar alcohol in it, ONE serving means ONE serving. More can be like a bomb in your belly.

I just like eating as close to straight off the farm as possible. Get as many different vegetables, fruits as possible. Your body will thank you for the delicious nutrients.
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I go with liquid stevia. The powder tastes weird to me.
I also like unsweetened frozen raspberries and this smoothy:

In blender:
ice cubes
unsweetened plain yogurt
unsweetened almond milk
unsweetened frozen raspberries
stevia

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I mentioned that Olive Leaf Extract cured systemic yeast in my case and allowed me to enjoy fruits again, in moderation. I used Myrolea-B, a formula. Details are below. So are two other brands frequently recommended, Seagate and Olivus.

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www.amazon.com/Olive-Leaf-Extract-Morton-Walker/dp/1575662264/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265402342&sr=1-1

Book: Olive Leaf Extract - by Dr. Morton Walker

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http://www.vrp.com/ArticlesSearch.aspx?k=Olive_Leaf_Extract

From the library at Vitamin Research Products -- Many articles on Olive Leaf Extract with good 3rd party documentation and a list of sources at the end of each article.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Olive Leaf Extract - 80 abstracts

Olive Leaf Extract, liver - 5 abstracts

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http://www.cogito.org/Articles/ArticleDetail.aspx?ContentID=15951

Biofilm . . . Terminalia chebula . . .

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An Olive Leaf formula (that contains Terminalia chebula):

My ND (naturopathic doctor) recommended MYROLEA B. Most naturopathic doctors and acupuncturists know about the Seven Forest formulas. As this is a combination formula, there are ingredients included to help the body with "clearing heat" and metabolizing toxins.

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http://www.acuatlanta.net/myroleab-tablets-p-22018.html

Manufacturer: White Tiger

Name: Myrolea-B

Myrolea-B is also known as: Olive leaf extract with Chinese herbs

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http://chineseherbs.net/article_info-articles_id-2.html

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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/flu.htm

Myrolea-B (White Tiger) is a simple formulation of highly concentrated extracts from four Chinese herbs and one Western herb.

The Chinese herbs include forsythia and lonicera, two of the key ingredients of Ilex 15 (and the main antiviral ingredients of Yin Qiao Jie Du Pian), thus boosting the dosage of these essential ingredients.

Myrolea-B also contains the antiviral agents scute (huangqin) and terminalia (hezi). The Western herb in this formulation is olive leaf, which is one of the primary anti-viral herbs derived from the European tradition.

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A history of this formula:

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/shuang.htm

SHUANGHUANGLIAN: Potent Anti-Infection Combination of Lonicera, Forsythia, and Scute - by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine - 2003

Shuanghuanglian (SHL for short) is a modern formula that was devised in the 1960s to treat a variety of infections. It is comprised of the alcohol-water extracts of three herbs: lonicera (shuanghua, often called jinyinhua), scute (huangqin), and forsythia (lianqiao). . . .

. . . One of the early preparations of the SHL was a tablet made of equal proportions of the extracts of each herb. This was used to treat leptospirosis, a disorder caused by a spirochete bacteria, related to the organism that causes Lyme disease.

Leptospirosis causes initial symptoms of fever and chills, headache, and muscle ache (especially in the shoulders); these are consistent with "flu-like" symptoms described for the onset of many acute infections.

In a 1971 report, the formula was described as being made in 500 mg tablets derived from 3.7 grams of the crude herbs, and being administered in doses of 10-15 tablets (thus, equivalent to the extract of 37-55 grams of herbs) every 6 hours (1), a very high dosage.

. . . Recently, Shuanghuanglian has been applied successfully to treatment of Coxsackie B3,

. . . The general indications for SHL . . . are "relieving the exterior syndrome, clearing away heat and toxic material," and its indications are "treatment of fever, cough, and sore throat that arise from wind-heat syndrome."

It is said to have "a good action in treating upper respiratory tract infection, tonsillitis, laryngopharyngitis, pneumonia, acute enteritis, viral dysentery, etc., when caused by virus or bacterial infection."

- full article at link above.

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Detail from two of the most reputable sources of OLE:

www.olivus.com/cautions_olive_leaf.htm

Olivus Olive Leaf Extract:

Excerpt:

Die-off effects -- Olive leaf use causes the death of microbes. The liver, kidneys, intestines and skin are therefore tested to their limits, to deal with, and remove them. This causes Herxheimers Reaction, which can have a variety of symptoms, but basically makes one feel ill or under the weather due to a treatment's effect upon the body.

Thus, "die-off," referred to in medicine as the "Herxheimer reaction," occurs when the olive leaf components kills large numbers of harmful germs rather quickly. Then, the patient's membranes absorb toxic products from these dead microorganisms.

The large amount of foreign antigens triggers an increasing immune response, in addition to interfering with usual biochemical processes, and these immune effects can temporarily worsen a person's symptoms. . . .

Symptoms
The symptoms include fatigue, diarrhea, muscle and joint pains, headaches, rashes, flu-like symptoms and even pimples.

These symptoms indicate that the herb is working and that a range of microbes and toxins have been eliminated and are in the process of being removed from your system. These symptoms can be reduced by increasing your fluid intake - but if they persist, reduce the dosage.

. . . . See details at link:

* Safety Precautions
 and * Known Drug Interactions


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http://www.seagateproducts.com/olive-leaf-extract.html

Seagate Olive Leaf Extract

Excerpt:

Side Effects: Olive leaves have been used safely for thousands of years. The only known side-effect is the possibility of a Herxheimer reaction, an allergic response caused by the rapid die-off of fungi that release toxins which may temporarily cause a brief allergic reaction, lasting for several days.
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I just tried some organic almond butter, nothing in it but ground up almonds, and was surprised that it tastes sweet to me.

It would be great in a smoothie with strawberries. I just eat a spoonful of it for a snack sometimes.

I also use stevia to make cocoa and lemonade. The liquid Sweet Leaf brand tastes good to me and doesn't seem to have a bitter aftertaste. I don't have any adverse reaction to it and it doesn't bother my blood sugar.

I have also made chocolate cake with almond flour, organic cocoa and stevia, along with butter or coconut oil, baking powder and a little salt, and I forget exactly--milk or egg or something. Search for "chocolate cake" on here and you'll find a recipe I used.

I made the small cake in a little microwave dish, so it came out round and flat. I put some fresh strawberries on top, and it seemed like something especially decadent to have for breakfast or dessert, not like icky diet food.

Good luck.

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