richedie
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I was reading my Melatonin bottle and it states if you have an auto immune disease do not use melatonin? Some of our symtoms are essentially autoimmune-like. Thoughts???
-Rich
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nefferdun
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No idea, just posting so it goes back up to the top. If you are taking it for sleep, I use the herb corydallis and it works much better.
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Tammy N.
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Lyme does induce a lot of auto-immunity. The bugs do go intra-cellular which causes the immune system to rev up and go haywire... causing auto-immunity.
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Marz
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nefferdun, do you mind telling the brand of corydalis you use?
And is it capsule or tincture?
I've checked health food stores here and no one carries it. Not a whole lot on web either.
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lyme in Putnam
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I take the lowest .03 of melatonin. Llnd and llmd both know and Sid it was ok.
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I take high doses of melatonin to sleep. My doctor said that they use high doses for cancer patients and that it is perfectly okay.
I have to use the timed release and the sublingual to get to sleep. I also take Klonopin for sleep too. You would think I would be in a coma with all of that, but still I wake up early sometimes.
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gmb
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Faithful7,
How high is considered a high dose? I've increased up to 10mg Melatonin with (2) Gabapentin caps at bedtime and way too often I still awake at 3am and can't fall back asleep before 5am wake-up for work.
Keebler
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- Melatonin is very safe and works very well for most. The dose can be tricky.
If it does not work well enough for sleep, an increase in dose may - or may not - be in order.
A timed-release form is usually best.
With melatonin, it's best to start with a very tiny dose. Less than 1 mg. would be ideal, really. I've seen it at 0.75 mg. as the lowest.
For higher dose use, it's good to see studies and compare all the variables, etc.
Increase very gradually over time, not all at once. And, for some, a very low dose may be where they need to be. Others may do best with more. But it can take months to sort this out.
I am one of the few who just can't tolerate melatonin, at all (as a supplement - so I have to help my body make it).
So, do listen to your body. If a lagging "hang-over" sort of effect happens, perhaps the dose was too high. If mood seems to drop - or if suicidal thoughts pop up - the dose may be too high or
it may be that melatonin just is not right for you. Most do very well with this, just not everyone. If it helps you feel better the next day, that's terrific.
I have tried this many times over years. Even a low dose clobbers me and, by day 3 every time -- no matter how cheery I decide I'm going to be as I really want this to work --
well, I'm just not myself on it, more exhausted and I'm just ready to "give up on this hard life altogether" - those kinds of reactions (especially depression) are pretty clear that this is not the right thing for my body/brain, at least not alone or in the forms I've tried.
I also think even the tiny doses I took were just to much for me. I have similar experiences from most things intended to calm. Instead they clobber by calming (depressing the nervous systems) too much -- in my case.
And that's unusual but the same reactions have been reported for a few others, I discovered when trying to figure this out.
There are many choices in stress reduction and sleep enhancement, though. And that is a cheerful thought. -
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