Topic: I read Dr B is cured of Lyme Disease from Oral Ceftin?
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I read in Cure Unknown, I only leafed through the book though, I did read the part where Dr B said he was cured of Lyme, going off all antibiotics
for 3-4 months, symptoms back then did ORAL Ceftin, a certain dosage and cured himself of Lyme, also I think the reporter that wrote the book, her name
is Pamela something is cured too. Dr B could not tell this to Dr's because it was an experiment, I think he said this.
Has anyone read this? I am getting the book out of the Library again,, I have different symptoms however then Dr B did, I have severe or had severe Babesia Duncani,
any input? Anyone reading this that does not know Dr B, he as been on antibiotics a long time, so this could be why the BUG Lyme was dwindling from being killed for so long. Just the hardy bugs left, so when off antibiotics, for a certain period of time,
the Lyme creeps out and you BANG the bugs left, read he is cured now.
thanks, Trish
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I personally think Dr. B probably did a lot more than just Ceftin. It sounds kind of flawed to me. How many IV sints did he do too probably? I can't say for sure, but I wouldn't bet the bank on this 'cure.'
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I heard Dr B took ceftin 2000 mg twice daily for 26 months. My reservation is that this regimen would not have treated for Babesia, Bartonella, Erlichia etc.
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maybe he only had lyme and not babesia, bart, erlichia or anything else and that is why ceftin alone cured it?
i know plenty of people (not on this site) that were more or less cured (felt 100%) after having lyme and being only treated for lyme, not coinfections.
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I have tought about this often. He either didn't have co infections or he is only speaking about lyme and not telling what he did for co infection.
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My impression from reading the book is this was just part of the treatment. He ended on Ceftin, went off, relapsed, went back on Ceftin, got well, went off, relapsed, went back on Ceftin again, had massive herx and was cured. Went off Abx and never relapsed.
The same goes for Pam Weintraub (the author.) She treated lyme, Babs, and Bart, but ended Ceftin and did 3 rounds finally getting it. It worked for her and Dr. B but may not work for all.
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- It is always wonderful to hear how someone achieved success. The author below also achieved remission. For both Dr. B and the author, it was a process.
As other mention, it's hard to make comparisons as the mix of coinfections vary from one person to another. So does the way their body systems work (or does not).
It was a process, not at all as simple as it sounds. The author of the book Pam Weintraub, has addressed this very question, cautioning us to not jump to fast conclusions.
The crowing touch may have been this or that, but the road getting there was also complex.
Somewhere, in a thread I think from the past year (maybe 6 months ago), Pam wrote a post here at lymenet in a similar thread explaining more about this.
you could search all threads with Dr. B but that will also bring up many other threads beside one addressing this. Other descriptive terms to search might be the book title, or search Pam's name in the text. -
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- I had saved this in my file notes: -------------------------
Topic: How did Burrascano cure himself? --------------
Post #36 -- Ms. Weintraub replies:
I just happened to notice this thread. Nowhere in Cure Unknown does it say that this is the first and last treatment for Lyme disease for anyone. This is a misunderstanding of the text.
Speaking for myself, I used the pulsing method ONLY AFTER four years of aggressive treatment for Lyme and coinfections. After those years, I was able to push symptoms back to remission but only while still on treatment. Off treatment, I relapsed over and over again.
The final, pulsing technique allowed me, finally, to get off antibiotics without further relapse --and I have been off them now for more than six years.
The pulsing was recommended by Doc B ONLY for the patient who had already been aggressively treated, and was now completely asymptomatic while on treatment, in other words, for the chronic relapser --a patient like me.
This is all spelled out in detail in Cure Unknown: Inside the Lyme Epidemic, published by St. Martin's Press.
Hope this all helps,
Pam Weintraub
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Post #38 - Pam posts again:
yes, only for Lyme:
after four years, my relapses were pure Lyme disease, no treatment for any coinfection had any impact on me anymore, as in the past.
My babesia --once the biggest problem-- was gone and it was the Lyme, alone, that remained. The pulsing worked, I believe, because in stopping treatment for a long time I let all the spirochetes come out in motile form in force, and it was therefore possible to kill them.
But this was only possible because I started from a completely asymptomatic place.
Pam Weintraub Cure Unknown -------------
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I have wondered about this myself. They both allowed themselves to spiral very far down before they took the ceftin. They became very sick, not just slightly. I think they were allowing all the cyst forms to convert to active spirochetes and then killing them with the ceftin. WHen they seemed well again, they quit the ceftin but relapsed. Again they allowed themselves to become extremely sick before taking abx. Pam W. emphasized this in her book - hold out waiting for all the cysts to convert before taking the ceftin the final time, which cured them.
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I will add that I did 10 months of standard dose ceftin with zith while I was pregnant. When I was done, the majority of the little, annoying symptoms I had were gone. I would say at least 30 of the symptoms I had were gone.
Ceftin is a good drug.
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This is a very interesting post. It's amazing how my intuition is validated so often in this process. After seeing a U-tube video of the spirochetes converting to cysts... I understand just how crazy resilient those little bugs are. I've been having this feeling that letting myself off treatment for a while to let the bugs come out again, then using IV Rocephin for a course. I really wanna try IV protocol but $$ is the obstacle and finding a doc to go full force. I wanna hook up with a doc I really trust so that I don't have to be the doc any more.
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