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tricycle
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Reading threads over the years there have been

many discussions about salvia transmission from

human to human. There is a thread now about tick

saliva being the way it is really transmitted.

I am not trying to stir the pot more I am asking

because I got the new puppy with 3 deer ticks on

him. He is on tick prevention now but my

question is can dogs transmit lyme or

coinfections via salvia ?

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I don't think your question is paranoid. And I do believe if the puppy has Lyme in his bloodstream, it could be transmitted via saliva.

Has he been to the vet for Lyme testing or treatment?

Congratulations on your new puppy!

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Yeah I got him on saturday and he was at vet on Monday and was tested. It was neg. reliable?
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Yeah I got him on saturday and he was at vet on Monday and was tested. It was neg. reliable?
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Probably unreliable as it takes time for the body to make antibodies to the Lyme bacteria.

If he has a follow-up, you could ask for prophylactic antibiotics. Also, he may react badly to normal vaccines if he has Lyme. You should know for sure before he gets his regular vaccines.

I would retest him in 4-6 weeks, just to be safe.

I'm so sorry you have to go through this with your new puppy.

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He could definately transmit bartonella, just as a cat could through bitting/ scratching/ fleas/ ticks, although it is much more likely for a cat (kitten) to carry bartonella.

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There is not enough known about alternative modes of Lyme transmission (human to human, other animals to humans, etc.) to be able to say one way or another.

If you want to err on the side of caution, I would just avoid bites or contact with broken skin and your dog's saliva or blood, and wash hands after playing with him or cleaning up after him.

Please try not to be overly worried about this - just use the regular precautions anyone should use when handling pets.


By the way, tick saliva transmits Lyme because it includes specific chemicals that Lyme has evolved to use for its transmission to a host (as well as transmission from host to tick).

The tick must also bite you for the saliva to work, and for transmission to occur.


As was mentioned above, Bartonella can be transmitted by the scratch of a cat, or by fleas or ticks. It may also be transmitted by dogs, but I am not as familiar with how that can happen.

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Thank you all so much I have a year and a half

old Australian terrier that is my love and I am

also concerned for him he has never had a tick

and has been on prevention since 7 weeks old.

The new pup and Tobe are such best friends

already and they wrestle and bite and play non

stop so yes I am vey scared for me and the dogs

But thatnk you all

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Thank you all so much I have a year and a half

old Australian terrier that is my love and I am

also concerned for him he has never had a tick

and has been on prevention since 7 weeks old.

The new pup and Tobe are such best friends

already and they wrestle and bite and play non

stop so yes I am vey scared for me and the dogs

But thatnk you all

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Just posted about this in a thread marked with an exclamation point a few days ago.

There is documentation of relapsing fever being transmitted this way, and Bb can be transmitted in every other way that RF is.

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