Topic: My LLMD asks me to put my hand on this metal thing +
Haley
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Blackstone - I too wish there was more research on this.
I'm aware that I am trying something that may or may not have results.
The thing that makes me a bit nervous is that it could make things worse. My first experience actually seemed to worsen things so I'm nervous about continuing the treatment for bacteria.
I don't think it is right to tell patients that this is a "cure" but that it may help. The patient can then decide.
I'm with faith. I have spent so much money on medicine that it was worth it to try something new. Also, I was just completely fascinated by the technology.
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momindeep
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Ten years we(my daughter and I) have been chasing that elusive cure. Now we are seeing a LLMD who has a Naturopath that works hand in hand with him...same office. They use that machine.
I refer to them as the Dream Team. I cannot stress what a help that machine and these two doctors have been to my daughter's health and recovery.
Nothing compares, nothing comes close to how these two doctors have helped my daughter get her life back after all of this time and I would not of believed it, unless I witnessed it myself, but there is definately something positive to that machine.
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BackinStOlaf
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Hmm..maybe I should take it more seriously.
The machine recommended babesia herbs for me but I have no symptoms of babesia.
I also don't want to be needlessly scared
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glm1111
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The babesia herbs the machine recommended may not necessarily be because you have babesia. When I was taking herbs from The Monastery of Herbs I was doing energetic testing to see which herbs I needed.
Sometimes it would come up that I needed oncogene herbs (for cancer) even tho I didn't have cancer.
It was explained to me that those were the specific herbs that I needed energetically that would attack the organism.
Don't know if that makes sense, but I decided to just trust it. Herbs can be excellent modalities for healing. Getting out of the fear could also help.
Gael
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Wow this is a lively post. I have never seen nor heard of one of these machines but would not immediately discredit it. If I,m reading this correctly it relies on resonance. Anyone ever hear of Magnetic Resonance Imaging aka MRI? Just a thought.
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randibear
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i went to a person who trained with cowden. up near the dfw airport.
she had me sit and she passed a wand type thing, i think it was glass tho, could have been metal, over my head, arms and chest. she, too, said something about energy.
then she used that foot detox bath. then she put me on a table and hooked up all these connections. she said it measured umm, mineral or something levels.
then she prescribed over 500 dollars of detox, lymph stuff, herbs and all.
finallly, she asked for me credit card and wanted to charged the same 500 every month automatically.
i said, uh no, thank you, and didn't go back.
i was not comfortable at all with this. maybe it does work, but i didn't feel better at all.
and she was wanting me to come in every couple of weeks.
that would have cost a fortune which i didn't have.
so for me, nope.
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For that money you could buy your own machine. It's sad that some of these ppl are just tryin to get rich quick. Gives the others who are truly trying to help a bad rap.
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Nor would all the detoxes and antiparasite work and adrenal adjustments and hormone adjustments been done. E.g. I had parasites from another country/continent and she found those I did not know I had.
I would have had to think that up and ask for a specific test, sort of knowing in advance to have ever found that. And it was nasty.
Yes I was in that country twice. Under less than ideal conditions. No symptoms yet. Nor did she know I was one of a geographical region exposed to a certain malignant pesticide...and many other things she "read".
it is based as she explains on each thing on earth having it's unique frequency. Makes total sense.
She makes a point of you not telling her at the beginning as she knows he has to prove her screening works.
Yes it is expensive over two years but my deductible was $4000 and I did not know a LLMD..never heard the term. Only knew the tests were unreliable and so the treatments. My sister went through it for years.
I have spent thousands on lyme between the hospital and alternative therapies...which all give me a portion of what I need to recover.
I used all my savings. Slightly in debt. Debilitation has me working about halftime...no other income producer.I dropped my insurance becasue I could not afford it and got a minimal hospitalization coverage. so i could keep going. Pay basics bills. And do this.
Yes it is an expensive and tough disease but I will join my voice to those who say if you find someone who can gain your trust and credibility and it really has value... and get started on s ome of what is needed and learn...then pick you way through.
The LLND I just found says nearly no other disease requires so much self education and autonomous choosing for your own health .
Chronic lyme is just danged expensive...don't know where the money is coming from next but it has come so far...unexpected income, gifts, borrow...I have to trust in faith.
Now the elecra dermal practioner (who has a background as head neurosurgical nurse 18 years, plus other) is learning to be lyme literate in her treatment...it is inadequate. Ignores other factors. Nutrition for one.
But even the lyme literate community is beginning to recognize her results can go beyond what even thorough diligent LL work can do. It expands--not replaces--- the "sight" of what needs to be dealt with.
Not instead of...but along with. She at this point cannot do a thing for the acute lyme and frankly would not dare.
Someday energy medicine will advance that far...dx it and zap it right out somehow..but here we are now. In diagnostics, in the hands of a skilled practioner it has pioneering promise and present help.
Consider how "woo woo woo" x rays or MRI or all of those must have seemed long ago and far away.
You will never convince me it has not saved my life...from being completely disabled and ruined...if not death.
It has also bailed me out of some very unpleasant non Lyme related maladies along the way...two toxic spider bites. yes the teeth marks and so forth. she identified two. I had not told her two. Only one. But I had two.
No not a complete diagnostic thereapy by a long shot.
Take what you need and can believe in and leave the rest.
And yes it is key to have confidence...if that is not present there is trouble. and when it wanes there is trouble...
I have had points where it waned because something would not resolve. I had to learn its limits and that was hard when you are full of hope and then scared again and desparate.
But we see that with ILADS et al.
My MD is not lyme literate and in fact would have given me a second strain case of chronic lyme this week if I had followed her directions. Doxy 100 mg for a few weeks becasue she refuses to accept the electra dermal dx and that my symptoms are lyme.
Now the clinical dx of the LLND may persuade her...but if not. Not.
but I would not have known that had I not know I had lyme already and learned what I have since...and there is so much more.
Through here I found local support group who gae me LL names.
Yes energy therapies of some types are pioneering. Yes there are quacks and greed and incompetent.
Excuse me but get a lyme diagnosis and find ignorance and greed in standard medical practice. It is the nature of humanity not of a machine.
Do we not recount it on the forums hourly? Welcoming the lost and distraught and undertreated or not treated at all?
Can she help me right now? no. I have a second acute case and am following the ILADS with an LLND. But will continue using what I can from her and so forth.
I expect to return for a "wave physical" but right now I am focusing on the ILADS..which I believe will gain huge ground in the chronic lyme, too.
Even the LLND offered that I have been sustained well for a long time "until"...so keep it up.
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Keebler
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- Yes, deerose, welcome. Very well said and, oh, so accurate:
"The LLND I just found says nearly no other disease requires so much self education and autonomous choosing for your own health ."
"Consider how "woo woo woo" x rays or MRI or all of those must have seemed long ago and far away." -
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