Topic: Yawning, Lack of Oxygen then Crash = Babesia??
Rianna
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I keep getting spells of Yawning, then I crash like I have no oxygen in my body could these spells be related to Babesia
They come on out of nowhere at any time of the day and can stay for a few hours or all day
Anyone else have these???
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seekhelp
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I live with these constantly and believe I have poorly treated Babesia WA-1. No doc I've ever seen until now did any real treatment for it. I'm sorry to hear it's back. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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my doc says babesia. same thing happens to me with the yawning. also get short of breath doing very little physical activity like walking up the stairs or walking to the car. he calls it air hunger.
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Rianna
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Thanks Guys - But do you get totally crashed with it, like yawning and then your whole body just gives up and any exertion just crash's you...... I am pleased to hear that others think this is Babesia related (nut sad we all have this.
Its funny as I get the Yawning but no air hunger with it OR is the Yawning air hunger???
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Babesia, Adrenals, POTS
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Rianna
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Adrenals are really supported with cortef and interestingly I run a cortisol test in a bad crash day post dose and all were in good range - Also I have no drop in BP on standing (typical adrenal).
This is why for me I am really thinking its Babesia as in the past when I have treated Babesia all of this gets better
Lets hope my new regime helps
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troutscout
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Yawning is not air hunger..when you air hunger, you'll know what it is..
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seekhelp
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Trouscout, yesterday evening I was out and everytime I tried to breathe, it was like my lungs were half full. It was horrible. It was like a weight I couldn't take off my abdomen/chest. Is that air hunger?
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Rianna
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looked back at notes from LLMD and yawing is part of air Hunger. Seek that is what I used to get on Mepron/Ketek exactly the same feeling with the severe chills, chattering teeth and sweats so I would say yes that is air hunger too
But do you also get the yawning and Crash like feelings where your body feel oxygen starved and then your crashed - even on any exertion
For me this has become worse over the months since being of Babesia treatment so I can only relate it to that
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Same thing happens to me...yawning followed by falling asleep. My problem is that once I fall asleep I am always jolted awake, almost instantly. It is the same jolt most people get when they've just dosed off and the phone rings, waking them up.
I test positive for babesia, but I've never had any long term meds for it, only a little Malarone and Larium. I can't afford the Mepron, so I suffer.
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i get the total crash like you're describing usually in the afternoon. in my case it's my adrenals. i get totally spent by the afternoon and feel paralyzed with fatigue.
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elizzza811, there are programs, like Needy Meds (I think that's the name) for people to get meds that they need when they don't have insurance and can't afford them.
In many states, if you call 211, they have a service where they will hook you up with different services that you need, such as getting meds that are unaffordable for you. There is info on getting meds when you're out of money under a sticky on the top of the Medical Questions posts.
Rianna, it certainly does sound like Babesia is back! Sorry to hear that. I remember that you said that Riamet/Coartem helped you in the past (you answered my post when I was starting it).
Sounds like it's time for another round or two, followed by other Babs meds/herbs. Babs is awful---as they all are.
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Rianna
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Anyone Else?
I really would like to figure if this yawning is linked to Babesia, its happening every day now excessive and then I crash - Morning/Afternoon any time. I have something telling me its Babesia/lack of oxygen related to babesia perhaps.
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sixgoofykids
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I got yawning and air hunger together. The yawning helped with the air hunger, sometimes it would keep me from hyperventilating.
Be sure to BREATH OUT. Air hunger is not a shortage of oxygen. One of my first medical tests regarding Lyme was for asthma because my sister has asthma. I was hyperventilating, definitely getting enough oxygen.
I would breath out and hold my breath out, then breath in and it would regulate my breath better.
Also, I found that tonic water helped my air hunger. I hear the quinine is not enough to be a treatment for babs, but it did take the edge off for me. There are natural tonics available with natural quinine rather than the chemical version. In a pinch, Schwepps worked fine.
Babesia can also cause severe fatigue, it did for me.
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Rianna
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quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids: I got yawning and air hunger together. The yawning helped with the air hunger, sometimes it would keep me from hyperventilating. Babesia can also cause severe fatigue, it did for me.
Thanks for the input, Thats what I am getting the yawning and then like someone has deflated a baloon like all my energy has been sucked out, I call it a crash as that is how it feels. The Yawning goes on and on and then wallop I am down. I dont get true Air hunger anymore although I used too.
I have just finished Coartem and Daraprim and am about to restart Babesia meds so hopefully that will help - I will drinks lots of Tonic water as well
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an I ask all of you what strain of babs you tested positive for? I think this is important.
Rianna, I had that symptom when I first got sick. It went away with one of my first regimens, mepron, biaxin, doxy. Could have been babs for me, not sure.
i'm still sick with something and I think it's babs but I don't have the yawning anymore.
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Rianna
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quote:Originally posted by blinkie: an I ask all of you what strain of babs you tested positive for? I think this is important. Rianna, I had that symptom when I first got sick. It went away with one of my first regimens, mepron, biaxin, doxy. Could have been babs for me, not sure.
I was positive for Microti but was told the test cross react so you often dont know what strain you have?
Thanks for replying as I do feel this is Babesia related now and can talk to my LLMD more about these symptoms
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Below is Dr. B's Babesia symptoms list from his Oct 2008 guidelines (pg. 26). I bolded the parts that address your questions. The "need to sigh and take a deep breath" could describe your yawning?
Sounds like you got your answers, but hope this solidifies...Plus if you have any of other symptoms listed, then that would further point to babesia!
BABESIA SPECIES- � Rapid onset of initial illness, often with sudden onset of high fever, severe headaches, sweats and fatigue, thus it is easy to know when infection began. � Obvious sweats, usually at night, but can be day sweats as well. � Air hunger, need to sigh and take a deep breath; dry cough without apparent reason. � Headaches can be severe - dull, global (involves the whole head, described like the head is in a vise). � Fatigue is prominent, does not clear with rest, and is made worse with exercise. � Mental dullness and slowing of reactions and responses. � Dizziness- more like a tippy feeling, and not vertigo or purely orthostasis. � Symptoms cycle rapidly, with flares every four to six days. � Hypercoaguable states are often associated with Babesia infections. � Rarely, splenomegaly � Very severe Lyme Disease can be a clue to Babesia infection, as it will make Lyme symptoms worse and Lyme treatments less effective.
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Rianna
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quote:Originally posted by Erica741: Below is Dr. B's Babesia symptoms list from his Oct 2008 guidelines (pg. 26). I bolded the parts that address your questions. The "need to sigh and take a deep breath" could describe your yawning?
Thanks Erica....What a nightmare of a bug this is, I will have to somehow hit this hard but treatment options are limited due to toxicity from past AB's etc - i am sure my LLMD will find a way through
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I'd be willing to jump on the bandwagon and say it's babesia, but doxycycline got rid of this for me, after treating my bartonella...
Doxycycline does not at all treat babesia, so I can't agree that yawning/the need to take a breath is automatically babesia.
I also have positive Mycoplasma pneumonia titers, and that is also treated by doxycycline, so maybe it's some combination of those two (bart and myco) that caused by need to yawn? I do suffer from low oxygen so there is no hyperventilation in my case... Just sharing thoughts...
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I know this is not the typical answer, but just being ill and out of shape causes one to yawn, sigh, and need more oxygen.
Not moving around because you are ill and not very mobile can cause these symptoms too. I think it is at least one possibility, especially if you have been ill a long time.
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Rianna
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quote:Originally posted by sutherngrl: I know this is not the typical answer, but just being ill and out of shape causes one to yawn, sigh, and need more oxygen. Not moving around because you are ill and not very mobile can cause these symptoms too. I think it is at least one possibility, especially if you have been ill a long time.
This Yawning is not just a yawn it goes on and on for a few minutes with many yawns and then as I say afterwards I crash/have been depleted of energy - it normally happens Late Morning and evening but can come on any time, again I beleive it could be Babesia related as it has gotten much worse since doing a round of coartem/Daraprim for Babesia and after that this has increased and so has my lack of mobility/weakness - I think where the protocol was so tough.
Speaking to LLMD Tomorrow to get his take on it
Thanks for everyones input
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