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My LLMD, has me on one abx, ceftin. I have read on here, and it has been suggested that I take 3 at a time to combat all 3 forms of Lyme at once...
Just wondering how many people are on 3 at time, if it's working, and if I should approach my LLMD with this soon?
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Absolutely, as a Lyme patient you must be proactive.
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You don't "need" to be on 3 ABX as long as all 3 forms of Bb are targeted.
For example: Doxy does both the intra and extra cellular forms of lyme. You then need a cyst buster.
Or...my current regimen...Biaxin (gets intra-cellular) and Amantadine (not an abx...but it gets the Bb out of the cell where the Biaxin kills it.) I then take Flagyl for the cysts.
Treating all 3 forms is key. THe # of antibiotics you are on is not.
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I was only on 2 antibiotics in the very beginning of my treatment and not for very long. That was a cyst buster and zith.
Most of my treatment has been 1 antibiotic at a time; and most of that has been doxycycline for over a year now. The most improvement I have seen has been the last 4 or 5 months while being on Doxy monotherapy.
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All three forms should be targeted in my opinion. When starting treatment they usually do monotherapy, but after a month or two flagyl or another cyst buster should be added. By the third month an intracellular abx should also be included.
I feel this is the best approach as I have seen good results with this method. This way it doesn't overload your system right away but still gets the job done and we seen major improvement by the end of the third month.
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Do I have to take them all at the same time or can I take them at separate times to get the effect? My LLMD says taking 3 at a time could wear me down, and herx terribly...
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I got rid of lyme, babs, and bart over 5 years ago. I never took 3 antibiotics at the same time.
To get rid of lyme, I took amoxi (with probenicid) and flagyl. That is only 2 antibiotics. Probenicid is not an antibiotic. It is an agent to keep the antibiotic in your blood stream longer.
The amoxi kills the spirochete form of lyme, and the flagyl kills the cyst form.
After a few months of that, I treated bart with Levaquin. After a month of that, I treated babs with Bactrim DS (which is a combination of 2 antibiotics) and pulsed artemesinin (an herb).
It worked for me. My doc treated one disease at a time and I was done in one year.
This is also the experience of my friends who all got rid of lyme disease and the cos going to the Burrascano type doctors I recommend.
Ceftin is a good start. Your doc may want to add flagyl later.
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What is Doxy monotherapy? Anyone on Doxy and Flagyl without feeling terrible? Is Ceft, Zith, Flagyl a safer route?
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Mono (meaning "one") therapy means being on only one antibiotic at a time.
So, doxy monotherapy means being only on doxy.
When my doc put me on flagyl and amoxi, I had been on amoxicillin alone for some time. Adding the flagyl gave me a herx for a week. The first 3 days I felt bad, and the next 4 days I felt half bad.
I ate lemons and drank lots of water so that my herx would be mild.
Everyone is different. I was afraid of a bad herx, but it really was nothing in my case.
Diet is also important to keep from having a bad herx. My doc had me on a no-carb diet. I ate basically just meat and non-starchy vegetables. This keeps you from getting a yeast infection in your intestines (from the flagyl) which can make you feel as sick as lyme disease.
Read about it in Burrascano Lyme Treatment Guidelines.
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The lyme bacteria can change forms to avoid antibiotics. So, if you are just on doxy, it will go into cyst form which doxy cannot kill. Amoxi cannot kill the cyst form either.
So, to really kill the lyme, you have to take the doxy and flagyl together. If you just take flagyl, it just kills lyme in the cyst form. So, the lyme will all change into the spirochete form to avoid being killed by the flagyl.
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I am on 3 different ABX to target all 3 forms...
Rocephin for spirochettes IV zith for L-forms Orals flagyl pulse for cyst.
I did not start all 3 at the same time, I started rocephin, 1 month later added zith, 1 month later added pulse flagyl. Doing ok, herxing but bearable.
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