"Doctor Opposes Antibiotic for Chronic Lyme Disease"
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blinkie
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Maybe that idiot should tell that to the Dr's treating acne with LT abx and the farming industry feeding abx by the truckloads to the animals we eat! That is infuriating!
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The poisoners are everywhere all of a sudden.
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if you all could please give me a list of doctors you know that are fighting against the treatment of chronic lyme
it would be appreciated I am adding them to the hall of shame on my new website.
please give me as many as you can
Paul
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TF
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Paul, if you put up doctors' names, be sure you have looked into libel and slander laws first.
These laws DO apply to Internet postings as they apply to any other writing or speaking.
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Tincup
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Paul,
Go to this page and click on the second link listed.
The names on that article and the Ad-Hoc committee are the main ones you are looking for.
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I'm not surprised he thinks this. St. Raph's is a terrible hospital in new haven. They don't hire good drs there.
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@seibertneurolyme well I did notice also said 48 percent undicided so it shows a lot of doctors believe but aren't ready to admit it publicly
Paul
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blinkie
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I agree that the 48% is encouraging.
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That is the Pediatric Infectious Disease Specialist who indicated my daughter's new and increasing symptoms were physoscamatic and stated to us "I know Lyme and your daughter doesn't have Lyme Disease".
At this appointment we realized we wasted 4 months with this guy but it took a couple of more months and MD's and hosipitals to get on the right track.
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TF
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"Undecided" means "unable to decide" or "have not yet decided."
I would not equate "undecided" to "already believe in chronic lyme but are not ready to admit it publicly."
Here is the sentence from the article:
"Feder and Dr. Michael Johnson, now at the Hospital of Saint Raphael in New Haven, Conn., conducted a survey and found of the 285 primary care physicians responding to the survey, nearly one-half did not believe chronic Lyme disease is a legitimate diagnosis, while 48 percent were undecided. Only six physicians, 2.1 percent, diagnosed and treated patients for chronic Lyme disease. "
I can see being glad that 48% of the physicians in the survey are undecided about chronic lyme, but I will be a lot more glad when 48% of them decide that chronic lyme is a legitimate diagnosis and will say so in a survey.
I think we still have a long, long way to go unfortunately.
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quote:Originally posted by TF: Paul, if you put up doctors' names, be sure you have looked into libel and slander laws first.
These laws DO apply to Internet postings as they apply to any other writing or speaking.
This is a very real danger.
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t9im
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To show how disengenious this guy is he is the same Infectious Disease MD who wrote the NE prestitous medical magazine article on "chronic lyme syndrome" and led the team in this area after the CT Attorney General had them review their policy.
This MD is just slightly biased.
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What about how many believe in chronic lyme, but do not treat it! That question seems to be missing.
If you believed in it, but didn't treat it the undecided answer would have been the most appropriate choice because they left out the other choice out.
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TF
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The article appears to be summarizing the results only.
It is not telling us all the questions and answers available.
We can't conclude from this article that they only let the doctors choose from 1) not legit diagnosis, 2) undecided.
What a survey that would have been! Easy to throw out as soon as they tried to publish their results. That would have been an elementary mistake, without a doubt.
But, if nearly 1/2 (let's call that 49%) don't believe chronic lyme is a legitimate diagnosis and 48% are undecided about whether or not it is a legitimate diagnosis, that leaves something like 3% who did not pick from these 2 responses. That's how many are left to answer that they believe chronic lyme is legit.
That ain't many.
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You "believe" in Judaism, Catholicism, Buddhism, etc.
Chronic Lyme Disease is not a belief system or a set of values. It is not something to believe in or disbelieve.
It is based in science. It is in the literature.
Feder and Dr. Johnson would have spent their time more wisely had they asked these physicians to describe their experiences with patients coming to them: ie, what did they diagnosis the patients with, how did they rule out Chronic Lyme Disease, did they rule out co-infections, what treatment regimens were used, what were the outcomes, how many patients remained in their practices.
They could have then asked them about their knowledge regarding tick-endemic areas, symptoms of Chronic Lyme Disease, identification and symptoms of co-infections, how many patients they have treated with Chronic Lyme Disease, treatment modalities for Lyme and co-infections.
I suspect that these questions would yield very interesting answers.
As for the 48% who were "undecided", all I can say is my money's on it that a good amount of them sure as he77 know about Chronic Lyme.
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-------------------- You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, 'I lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along.'
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-------------------- You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, 'I lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along.'
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TerryK
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Alana asked: And another thing....just wondering how many doctors treating sick people have the time to do silly surveys?
They have all the time in the world when they are developing a tool that can be used to substantiate their position.
I'm sure the questions were designed to get the results they wanted. These 2 always seem to have an ulterior motive and it is never to find the truth but simply to bolster their position on lyme disease. The same position they've had for decades regardless of the many studies that have been done since they originally came to their conclusions.
The data they use often seems to have major flaws. I'm sure this survey is no different.
Terry
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