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pugs
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It's one of my most disturbing symptoms. Can't really explain it... kinda like an object seems fuzzy or fades out.

Is there any documentation related to this? thanks, it drives me nuts.

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For me everything looks kinda blurry and dream like. Nothing looks or feels real anymore which drives me INSANE!

If I look at one thing like the computer it looks normal but as soon as I get up and start walking or looking around everything seems blurry or foggy. It IS really hard to explain and I just want that symptom GONE

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These were one of my most troubling symptoms.

I would have "drunk vision" and would occasionally see "light patches" in my vision. When reading, I swear I could sometimes see the "white" of the page better than the black text.

Looking at striped patterns were bothersome.

I had days when everything looked like a photonegative. I would get worms in the periphery.

All are gone now, except for some mild floaters.

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2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
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HEY BCB 1200
that's great to hear they are gone now i have that junk going on now , whould you mind sharing
what seemed to help the most with those symptoms

thanks Scott

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I would say that right now my eyes/vision are my worst symptom. I am in constant fear and anxiety of them getting worse or going blind.. please post all that has worked in regards to eye/vision issues. Thanks
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I have the fuzzy cloudy blurry vision when I'm low on B12.

After a shot it goes away.... works for me.

Used to have b12 levels tested everytime I had the blurry vision and sure enough, I was always low.

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Lyme, Babs, Fry Bug..... Whatever it is, may a treatment be discovered to make us all whole again!

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Thanks for everyone's input. Too bad so many people experience similar symptoms. I've tried B12 and it never helped..good luck to all, hope treatment helps!
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I had 2 white-outs lasting less than 15 minutes and occurring in both eyes. I mentioned to the ID doctor and he has ordered an MRI of my head.
I think I will opt out of the Gadolinium contrast though.

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Ideas not advice.

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beachinit--that must have scary! I think the MRI is a good idea. share the results with us? Good luck!
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All the tick-borne infections (as well as other stealth infections) can affect - or damage - eyesight. Be sure to discuss symptoms with your LLMD and, if needed, also ask for a referral to LL eye doctor whom your LLMD trusts.

Fuzzy or fade-out symptoms can be from fatigue - or from other influences. The Yoga for Your Eyes detail below may help. Our eyes get really tired, too, and need rest but also some specific exercise.

Toxicity is the huge issue for anyone with a tick-borne infection. Toxins can cause damage to all body systems and organs. Be sure liver support is in place.

The inflammation from infection also greatly affects our eyes. Liver support is part of dealing with that but other suggestions are in links below. It's just a start to the conversation you should have with your LLMD or LL ND (naturopathic doctor).

While eye tissue itself can be damage or stressed - some visual changes can be from nerve inflammation in the brain - or from the ears which also often take a hit from infection and toxicity.

Also check all your medicines and over the counter products. Many can upset eyesight, especially blurry vision.

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http://tinyurl.com/2ostau

Acta Ophthalmol Scand. 1997 Dec;75(6):716-9.

The etiology of uveitis: the role of infections with special reference to Lyme borreliosis.

Department of Ophthalmology, University of Helsinki, Finland.

Excerpt:

CONCLUSION: Infections are an important cause of uveitis in a university clinic.

Lyme borreliosis is a newly recognised uveitis entity which should be kept in mind in the differential diagnosis of intermediate or posterior uveitis in areas endemic for Lyme borreliosis.

PMID: 9527338

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http://tinyurl.com/26toq4

Ophthalmology. 2000 Mar;107(3):581-7.

The expanding clinical spectrum of ocular lyme borreliosis.

Excerpt:

CONCLUSIONS: Lyme borreliosis can cause a variety of ocular manifestations, which develop mainly in the late stage of the disease. Photophobia and severe periodic ocular pain can be characteristic symptoms of Lyme borreliosis. . . .

PMID: 10711899

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http://tinyurl.com/2ajus2

Int Ophthalmol Clin. 1997 Spring;37(2):13-28.

THE OCULAR MANIFESTATIONS OF LYME DISEASE

Zaidman GW.

New York Medical College, Valhalla, USA.

LD (with its ocular manifestations) is a worldwide disorder that is increasing in frequency. It is a treatable multisystemic disease that presents in three stages of severity.

It can present with unusual forms of conjunctivitis, keratitis, cranial nerve palsies, optic nerve disease, uveitis, vitreitis, and other forms of posterior segment inflammatory disease. . . .

PMID: 9269595

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In addition to infection, liver stress can damage the eyes. Particularly, elevated porphyrins, common with toxic infections.
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http://porphyriafacts.tripod.com/ocular.html

PORPHYRIA FACTS - OCULAR MANIFESTATIONS

Forty questions and answers

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LymeNet thread as porphyria relates to toxic infections, see first "Secondary Porphyria" post, then the KPU/HPU posts:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/91842?

PORPHYRIA Thread - along with details about KPU/HPU (Mauve factor)

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Problems looking at stripes indicated inner ear involvement called NYSTAGMUS, very common with lyme.

Take a look at all the ways our ears affect what we see:

http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php

VESTIBULAR SYMPTOMS

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LIVER SUPPORT links and all sorts of other ways to help our ears, and our eye health:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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http://tinyurl.com/dc9u8c (Through Amazon)

The Eye Care Revolution: Prevent and Reverse Common Vision Problems - by Robert Abel, Jr. M.D.

You can read customer reviews and look inside the book.

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http://www.vrp.com/vision-and-sight/vision-natural-ways-to-maintain-eye-health

Vision: Natural Ways to Maintain Eye Health - By Jim English

Excerpt:

. . . A number of nutrients have been extensively studied for their ability to treat a wide variety of vision-related conditions by preventing the damage caused by free radical activity and by enhancing the delivery of blood and oxygen to the retina to help repair tissues. . . .

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Not specific to lyme or other tick-borne disease, yet relevant, especially in the suggestions of what can help.
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http://tinyurl.com/2vtcurr

(or search article through: http://www.compassionateacupuncture.com/ )

INFLAMMATION AND ITS ROLE IN DISEASE

John G. Connor, M.Ac., L.Ac. - June 2010

17 pages

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And this has me reminded about what Marnie has posted regarding anti-inflammatory action of

OmegaBrite - easily found through Google.

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http://irlen.com/

IRLEN LENSES

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJS2LTsQde4

YOGA FOR YOUR EYES

It's nice to see what it's like on You Tube and then purchase for your daily use with your DVD player. You Tube denies him of his rightful due for all his research and work.

The DVD is very affordable - about the cost of one supplement - it's just about $20. and you get a book with it, too. The DVD is also much easier on your eyes - from your TV at a distance. The computer screen is much harder on eyes.

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http://www.yogalifestyle.com/DVMSSTYogaForYourEyes.htm

YOGA FOR YOUR EYES - DVD

This 1 hour and 15 minute DVD plus 65 page illustrated study guide and eye chart was the surprise hit at the recent New York Yoga Expo and evidently with good reason.

Meir Schneider, PhD, LMT is well known for his pioneering work with self healing in general eyesight improvement in particular.
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Also be sure to search the Archives here at LymeNet for past threads about eyes and vision. There are many.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/search/search_forum/1

Search archives - search subject line of medical forum
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I am able to get rid of all Lyme eye symptoms by drinking mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory antioxidant juice.

There are lots of brands in healthfood stores and online. I drink the Ultra one from Trace Minerals with 70 minerals added. If you try it, go slowly and drink a lot of water too.

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Yes, for me it's blurry vision in both eyes. Usually worse in the morning, feels like almost a film over my eyes. When I wash them out it does help a little. I sometimes wake up with extreme amounts of conjunctivitis-type goop in my eyes.

This all comes and goes. Just like many of my Lyme symptoms. The only couple that really NEVER go are the internal vibrations/over-reactive nervous system and some sort of weird tongue issues, those are pretty much constant, sigh. TS

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I feel so much better reading all these....I even sometimes think someone is there and then I look and no one. I too used to love to read, now I am lucky to read a couple pages if that before the floaters distract me and that's the end of reading.
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Hi pugs,

I have a lot of variable vision problems, including difficulty with focusing and a blurry feeling in my eyes.

Sometimes I think this is eyestrain, but most of the time I think it's related to toxin build-up. If I take a binder or fiber to aid detox, my vision and eye symptoms usually clear up quickly.

I've read that vision disturbances could be related to accumulation of heavy metals and other neurotoxins that are not being cleared from the body.

Dr. S. in Maryland (he's not specifically an LLMD) offers a visual contrast sensitivity test online for minimal cost. You might want to try taking that on a bad day and a good day, for comparison.

The test involves looking at patterns of gray wavy lines on a white background and seeing how much you can make out. I'm sure the link has been posted on Lymenet before.

Take care,
Nutmeg

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I have found mangosteen juice! Starting my second month drinking it.

I still have a foggy head most of the time but my eyes are clear. Haven't had any blurriness since I started drinking it. I can even read in bed at night now. Haven't been able to do that for months.

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IGG Bands Detected - p18
IGM Western Blot - positive
IGM Bands Detected - p23, p41

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[group hug]
Pugs,
I had problems with focus. My eye doctor said during an examination that I was jumping in and out of focus.

Depth perception was also gone. I fell off a porch and broke my leg because the step was not where my eyes saw it.

Good Luck,
Lo

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.... thanks everyone for your support. stinks that almost everything mentioned above is what i experience.

I've never taken the VCS test but have heard of it, good idea to jog our memory. Lo, I'm so sorry you fell and broke your leg, i hope you heal soon...

oh hugs, hoping the eye stuff gets better with treatment of lyme and reducing neurotoxins.

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